Tiger Woods and steroids..
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When people ask "How can someone go from being so dominant to so pedestrian?" I respond with "I don't think he's on steroids any more, and I think his competitors know it."
To totally hijack this thread, this is why Griffey should break the record for first ballot HOF votes (yes I know he is black and it will not happen). His body broke down when it was supposed to break down. He didn't get better after he turned 30. -
yet another reason why Im betting the field to win the Masters
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not to poke holes in all of your logic, but i must.RavennaDawg said:When people ask "How can someone go from being so dominant to so pedestrian?" I respond with "I don't think he's on steroids any more, and I think his competitors know it."
To totally hijack this thread, this is why Griffey should break the record for first ballot HOF votes (yes I know he is black and it will not happen). His body broke down when it was supposed to break down. He didn't get better after he turned 30.
Eldrick hasn't been Tiger since 2008. He was 33 then and has gotten gradually worse. So is his body breaking down like it's supposed to? or is did he stop taking roids? Him and Griffey seem to be on same timeline there. I don't believe Griffey took roids, and i don't really give a damn if Tiger did, but it seems like Eldrick's body is breaking down like 'its supposed to'
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This. Eldrick's various physical ailments suggest that he never juiced, rather than he stopped juicing in 2008.BlowItUp said:
not to poke holes in all of your logic, but i must.RavennaDawg said:When people ask "How can someone go from being so dominant to so pedestrian?" I respond with "I don't think he's on steroids any more, and I think his competitors know it."
To totally hijack this thread, this is why Griffey should break the record for first ballot HOF votes (yes I know he is black and it will not happen). His body broke down when it was supposed to break down. He didn't get better after he turned 30.
Eldrick hasn't been Tiger since 2008. He was 33 then and has gotten gradually worse. So is his body breaking down like it's supposed to? or is did he stop taking roids? Him and Griffey seem to be on same timeline there. I don't believe Griffey took roids, and i don't really give a damn if Tiger did, but it seems like Eldrick's body is breaking down like 'its supposed to'
I will acknowledge that there is some circumstantial evidence that points to him being a juicer though. -
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Baseball is not golf.
Nicklaus won 7 majors at 33 or older. I think Mickelson has won 9. The best golfer in the world can be world class after 32. The body of a great golfer not aided by Canadian doctors is not supposed to crumble at 32.
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Love me some Junior, but I disagree with you on this one. Yes, Griffey should get some poonts for resisting the needle. But his body broke down because he didn't take care of it. You don't have to superficially improve after 30 to avoid completely falling off a cliff. Griffey didn't like working out and it caught up with him. I love the guy, and he should be first ballot, but no way he should set the record for votes. He's not the GOAT.RavennaDawg said:When people ask "How can someone go from being so dominant to so pedestrian?" I respond with "I don't think he's on steroids any more, and I think his competitors know it."
To totally hijack this thread, this is why Griffey should break the record for first ballot HOF votes (yes I know he is black and it will not happen). His body broke down when it was supposed to break down. He didn't get better after he turned 30. -
I wouldn't guarantee Griffey didn't take steroids. There is no way to know, other than he never got caught. Edgar, Buhner, A-Rod all were. Who is to say Griffey wasn't?
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Griffey wasn't on roids. He didn't even like working out. He got fat as he got older.RoadDawg55 said:I wouldn't guarantee Griffey didn't take steroids. There is no way to know, other than he never got caught. Edgar, Buhner, A-Rod all were. Who is to say Griffey wasn't?
Nothing about him even hints that he was ever on the juice. To hint that he was is just trying to stir the pot.
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Not trying to stir the pot. I don't give a shit if he was or wasn't. Just think it's stupid to guarantee he wasn't because of his media image. There's no way to know.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Griffey wasn't on roids. He didn't even like working out. He got fat as he got older.RoadDawg55 said:I wouldn't guarantee Griffey didn't take steroids. There is no way to know, other than he never got caught. Edgar, Buhner, A-Rod all were. Who is to say Griffey wasn't?
Nothing about him even hints that he was ever on the juice. To hint that he was is just trying to stir the pot.





