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One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    People to laugh at are a dime a dozen here

    Hondo is always warming up in the bullpen
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    Imagine all the threads you are ignoring to make an ass of yourself in this one

    Wonder why
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,210 Swaye's Wigwam
    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
    So you're not disputing anything. And you want everyone in those states to move.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    A meltdown to match Biden's

    Again, if I’m going to be the topic all the time, I need to get paid, Stalin.
    You're wrong. And your answer to examples of high taxes in the US were to say they're bullshit, and then next to just say 'Well, move then'.
    This began with a bunch of hysteria over how high your taxes are and continues with hypotheticals about how much someone could conceivably pay. Damone is the exception, but he either can’t do math or is lying his ass off.

    No. It began with a tweet that triggered you.
    Feel free to read it again if you like. All you've done with us is call us gals and then mock us. Note that I haven't done the same to you. There is no dispute that the US isn't a low tax country. Plenty of examples for that. And there isn't a dispute that the fucked up system of local and federal governments misuse the funds they get and just keep asking for more. How many millions of dollars are wasted by Seattle, San Francsisco and other cities on 'the homeless' and yet we just keep hearing how more taxes will fix it. Damone's not lying.
    A tweet about SF and NY. The only two places anyone can live in the United States.
    So you're not disputing anything. And you want everyone in those states to move.
    People who voluntarily pay higher taxes must not think taxes are so high that they should leave.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,210 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
    The olds miss the point a lot too.

    What entitlements are you going to vote to deprive yourself of, Race?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
    The olds miss the point a lot too.

    What entitlements are you going to vote to deprive yourself of, Race?
    Gee there just isn't anywhere else to cut

    Embarrassing
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,731 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Cut spending on public education to zero and give each parent $12k per kid and call it good. Far cheaper and then you would actually get some education. Cut the hundreds of billions in federal and state renewable tax credits, ethanol and renewable energy standards. You leftards love public transit and the public in the vast majority of the country hate it and the public danger it entails. Tens of billions of dollars for a choo choo train from nowhere to nowhere in Cali. It's like the dazzler is deaf, dumb and blind.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,628

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I'm hearing that California and NY are high tax hellholes that we should model the rest of the country after.

    You’re hearing that at the grange hall?

    Surprising.
    Your plan is to not cut spending and increase taxes on the lower class with zero accountability for the quality of services rendered.

    Sounds like a political winner! Hopefully Biden adopts it as his running platform.
    Cut spending? In what version of the United States are voters going to support cutting their own entitlements? The olds vote, you know.
    Cut spending on public education to zero and give each parent $12k per kid and call it good. Far cheaper and then you would actually get some education. Cut the hundreds of billions in federal and state renewable tax credits, ethanol and renewable energy standards. You leftards love public transit and the public in the vast majority of the country hate it and the public danger it entails. Tens of billions of dollars for a choo choo train from nowhere to nowhere in Cali. It's like the dazzler is deaf, dumb and blind.
    See? Gasbag ain’t giving up any of his entitlements, where the really big money is. He’d cut nickel and dime items though.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,736 Founders Club
    SACRAMENTO (AP) — The California High-Speed Rail Authority on Wednesday bumped its overall cost estimate for completing the rail line between San Francisco and Los Angeles to $80.3 billion, blaming inflationary increases and better cost projections for a $1.3 billion boost that still is smaller than in previous years.

    After years of embarrassing cost overruns and delays, managers of California’s ambitious bullet-train project insisted that they are on pace to meet a preliminary 2022 federal deadline for laying track along the first segment in the Central Valley.


    The voters approved 9 billion. Now this is state money with Obama stimulus money and now Biden and Buttboy money and not a fucking rail has been laid and no one even wants it anymore

    But hey there just isn't any fat anywhere to cut

    3 trillion for unicorns and bike lanes just passed

    WHAT ENTITLEMENTS WOULD YOU CUT????


    Since I'm not a retard like H I don't fall for the old the GOP wants to kill your grandma bullshit

    I fall for the Duck fans want to kill your grandma bullshit
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    My effective tax rate is 36%.

    Fuck off.

    Bull fucking shit.
    Fuck off. I’m being generous. It’s likely higher.

    You’re fucking idiot.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2021
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    My effective tax rate is 36%.

    Fuck off.

    The dazzler still won't deal with the all important marginal tax rates. The economy can't expand without investment. As even the dazzler has reluctantly admitted that investment decision are made using the marginal tax rate. The higher the marginal tax rate, the lower the after tax cash flow which generates the after tax rate of return. Then toss in inflation. Inflation brings risk into the investment decision. The more inflation uncertainty, the more risk and the more risk requires a higher rate of return. That's why businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas. Building a new plant in Texas is cheaper and the business tax rate is substantially lower and their in no state personal income tax. When you want to punish profitable US based businesses, they have the alternative of leaving the US, and moving their investment offshore.

    Anyone still think the dazzler has an MBA?
    Off topic. Start your own thread, Gasbag.
    Yeah, when you are demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge regarding effective rates and marginal rates, I'd say "off topic" as a deflection point.
    Yet the topic is effective rates and the wildly exaggerated claims you girls make about them.
    How is a 36% effective rate an exaggeration. Just because you can’t understand it, doesn’t make it false. Idiot.

    I showed you a simple case where I person making $140k pays 33%. You said bullshit. I told you to show your work, which you couldn’t do. You’re a dumb fuck.
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