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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,455 Standard Supporter

    Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

    Kobe thinks adding 35 million people that can't pay a dime for insurance or health care and making everyone else pay for them makes health care more affordable for everyone else. An economic genius!
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,710 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

    Kobe thinks adding 35 million people that can't pay a dime for insurance or health care and making everyone else pay for them makes health care more affordable for everyone else. An economic genius!
    The only thing that makes a product less expensive is free market competition. Look at plastic surgery or lasik eye. Prices way down and product quality way up. Under the current US health structure, only Trump was working on transparent pricing and making big pharma accountable for selling to Mexico cheaper than the US. The dementia patient overturned the transparency requirement. So, given no competition, cost only goes down when care is denied. If you throw millions of illegals into the US official health care system, with no increase in costs (nurses doctors, aides and hospital space) then you take care away from those with health care. Like water is wet.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,188 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2021

    Sledog said:

    Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

    Kobe thinks adding 35 million people that can't pay a dime for insurance or health care and making everyone else pay for them makes health care more affordable for everyone else. An economic genius!
    The only thing that makes a product less expensive is free market competition. Look at plastic surgery or lasik eye. Prices way down and product quality way up. Under the current US health structure, only Trump was working on transparent pricing and making big pharma accountable for selling to Mexico cheaper than the US. The dementia patient overturned the transparency requirement. So, given no competition, cost only goes down when care is denied. If you throw millions of illegals into the US official health care system, with no increase in costs (nurses doctors, aides and hospital space) then you take care away from those with health care. Like water is wet.
    I was kicked off Daily Kos over a thread after BO Care was passed talking about how much people were going to save. A scorching rat got on and was bragging about how her cost of healthcare came down so much that now she could afford a 45 day trip to Europe in the month of March of that year. She had always wanted to see Europe in end of winter beginning of Spring. 45 days........ In the next breath she was only too happy to skewer the people who were against BO Care. I kindly asked her who she thought was subsidizing her healthcare costs and why she thought off of the back of those individuals she could take a clearly unemployed 45 consecutive days off to travel Europe and somehow feel good about herself.

    I never got the answer. I was barred from the site for not participating in rat group think.

    Meanwhile my two sister in-laws were forced by their companies onto BO Care and received huge increases that they could not afford. They were clearly subsidizing the unemployed asshole who travelled Europe for 45 days. Thankfully they could quit their jobs after finding companies that provided good insurance, subsidized by the company itself.

    Idiots like Kobe could give two shits about the middle class suffering due to BO Care and other rat government programs.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,676 Founders Club
    Where I was working at the time kicked the families of the coverage and we had to pay more for what was left. I could have blamed my employer but I'm not an idiot

    When I left and had to get my own insurance it was so expensive that having none and paying cash cost far less.

    Since then H and Kobe and the rest have assured me that Obamacare is FAR better than the great insurance I had before.

    Healthcare which is actually health insurance is another way the left wants to scare the population into compliance with socialism

    I just want people to have good healthcare man.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,179 Swaye's Wigwam

    Where I was working at the time kicked the families of the coverage and we had to pay more for what was left. I could have blamed my employer but I'm not an idiot

    When I left and had to get my own insurance it was so expensive that having none and paying cash cost far less.

    Since then H and Kobe and the rest have assured me that Obamacare is FAR better than the great insurance I had before.

    Healthcare which is actually health insurance is another way the left wants to scare the population into compliance with socialism

    I just want people to have good healthcare man.

    My premium went from $70 to $450 and I didn't get to keep my doctor as promised.

    Completely destroyed the open market for insurance...as it was designed to do.

    It forced a boatload of people I know out of the independent consulting world and into the arms of corporate America.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Where I was working at the time kicked the families of the coverage and we had to pay more for what was left. I could have blamed my employer but I'm not an idiot

    When I left and had to get my own insurance it was so expensive that having none and paying cash cost far less.

    Since then H and Kobe and the rest have assured me that Obamacare is FAR better than the great insurance I had before.

    Healthcare which is actually health insurance is another way the left wants to scare the population into compliance with socialism

    I just want people to have good healthcare man.

    My premium went from $70 to $450 and I didn't get to keep my doctor as promised.

    Completely destroyed the open market for insurance...as it was designed to do.

    It forced a boatload of people I know out of the independent consulting world and into the arms of corporate America.
    The meth addict thanks you for your sacrifice.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,846

    Sledog said:

    Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

    Kobe thinks adding 35 million people that can't pay a dime for insurance or health care and making everyone else pay for them makes health care more affordable for everyone else. An economic genius!
    The only thing that makes a product less expensive is free market competition. Look at plastic surgery or lasik eye. Prices way down and product quality way up. Under the current US health structure, only Trump was working on transparent pricing and making big pharma accountable for selling to Mexico cheaper than the US. The dementia patient overturned the transparency requirement. So, given no competition, cost only goes down when care is denied. If you throw millions of illegals into the US official health care system, with no increase in costs (nurses doctors, aides and hospital space) then you take care away from those with health care. Like water is wet.
    I was kicked off Daily Kos over a thread after BO Care was passed talking about how much people were going to save. A scorching rat got on and was bragging about how her cost of healthcare came down so much that now she could afford a 45 day trip to Europe in the month of March of that year. She had always wanted to see Europe in end of winter beginning of Spring. 45 days........ In the next breath she was only too happy to skewer the people who were against BO Care. I kindly asked her who she thought was subsidizing her healthcare costs and why she thought off of the back of those individuals she could take a clearly unemployed 45 consecutive days off to travel Europe and somehow feel good about herself.

    I never got the answer. I was barred from the site for not participating in rat group think.

    Meanwhile my two sister in-laws were forced by their companies onto BO Care and received huge increases that they could not afford. They were clearly subsidizing the unemployed asshole who travelled Europe for 45 days. Thankfully they could quit their jobs after finding companies that provided good insurance, subsidized by the company itself.

    Idiots like Kobe could give two shits about the middle class suffering due to BO Care and other rat government programs.
    Yup I lost my good insurance and doctor cost me a ton back then
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,035

    Where I was working at the time kicked the families of the coverage and we had to pay more for what was left. I could have blamed my employer but I'm not an idiot

    When I left and had to get my own insurance it was so expensive that having none and paying cash cost far less.

    Since then H and Kobe and the rest have assured me that Obamacare is FAR better than the great insurance I had before.

    Healthcare which is actually health insurance is another way the left wants to scare the population into compliance with socialism

    I just want people to have good healthcare man.

    Even if you still we able to keep your insurance with your employer the price went way up. Also, the out of pocket dollar amount you now have to pay if you do end up needing to go to the hospital has gone way up. I needed surgery when I blew-out my achilles in 2000. I don't think I ever saw a bill for any of it. Fast forward to 3 years ago when my son blew-out his knee playing football, I had thousands of dollars in out of pocket expenses and what the insurance company actually did pay was outrageous. Your private insurer gets soaked in order to cover the cost of all the freeloaders who are getting their "free" Obamacare.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Had a recent surgery. We have great insurance. $935 on demand before I could access the surgical suite.
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