Details, details, details. Things rats don't want you to see.

Bendintheriver

Hurry up and pass the 3.5 trillion so that we can all see what's in it. Isn't that the rat way?

Turns out child care for a whole lot of middle class people, actually the overwhelming majority of middle class voters, is going to be a whole lot more expensive. Unattainably expensive.
Why do rats have to lie to get their shit passed? The obvious answer is the fact that they would never pass their legislation if the voters knew the truth.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/bidens-help-for-child-care-would-make-middle-class-pay-13k-more/

Biden’s ‘help’ for child-care would make the middle class pay $13K a year more

PurpleThrobber

They fucked up health care and said costs would go down. They didn't.

They're fucking around with child care and saying costs will go down. They won't.

The only thing government does more efficiently than the private sector is wage war. And even that is debatable given the number of mercenary contractors utilized since invading Iraq.

pawz

PurpleThrobber said:

They fucked up health care and said costs would go down. They didn't.

They're fucking around with child care and saying costs will go down. They won't.

The only thing government does more efficiently than the private sector is wage war. And even that is debatable given the number of mercenary contractors utilized since invading Iraq.

Did they merely fuck it up, or did they work hand-in-glove with the corporate oligarchs to rig the system to the detriment of the common man?

PurpleThrobber

pawz said:

PurpleThrobber said:

They fucked up health care and said costs would go down. They didn't.

They're fucking around with child care and saying costs will go down. They won't.

The only thing government does more efficiently than the private sector is wage war. And even that is debatable given the number of mercenary contractors utilized since invading Iraq.

Did they merely fuck it up, or did they work hand-in-glove with the corporate oligarchs to rig the system to the detriment of the common man?

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Sledog

I'm certain this involves giving child care to people who don't work and pay nothing. Reminds of Obunghole care. What could go wrong?

Bob_C

PurpleThrobber said:

They fucked up health care and said costs would go down. They didn't.

They're fucking around with child care and saying costs will go down. They won't.

The only thing government does more efficiently than the private sector is wage war. And even that is debatable given the number of mercenary contractors utilized since invading Iraq.

The childcare thing is gonna be an absolute shitshow. Crazy high demand already, not enough supply in the right places due to heavy regulations from the state. Some federal oversight will help those problems Im sure. They are gonna be bussing 3 year olds around between locations, just watch.

SFGbob

Bob_C said:

PurpleThrobber said:

They fucked up health care and said costs would go down. They didn't.

They're fucking around with child care and saying costs will go down. They won't.

The only thing government does more efficiently than the private sector is wage war. And even that is debatable given the number of mercenary contractors utilized since invading Iraq.

The childcare thing is gonna be an absolute shitshow. Crazy high demand already, not enough supply in the right places due to heavy regulations from the state. Some federal oversight will help those problems Im sure. They are gonna be bussing 3 year olds around between locations, just watch.

Wait until all the childcare workers unionize.

BleachedAnusDawg

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time. Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

Southerndawg

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time. Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

No apology necessary. When you're right you're right.

UW_Doog_Bot

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time. Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

Or just remove the yuge regulatory and legal barriers to being able to start an in-home daycare. Competition, competition, competition.

It worked for the beer brewing industry.

Southerndawg

UW_Doog_Bot said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time. Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

Or just remove the yuge regulatory and legal barriers to being able to start an in-home daycare. Competition, competition, competition.

It worked for the beer brewing industry.

Don't disagree ... abundance seems the right answer here.

BleachedAnusDawg

UW_Doog_Bot said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time. Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

Or just remove the yuge regulatory and legal barriers to being able to start an in-home daycare. Competition, competition, competition.

It worked for the beer brewing industry.

Sure, do that, too. I don't think the "market solution" does much for the kids' upbringing, but if it's cheaper than the current options that's good, too.

UW_Doog_Bot

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Bring manufacturing out of East Asia (China, mostly) and back to the US. Good paying jobs that allow one half of the parental unit to stay at home or work only part-time.

Figure out how to have less kids born out of wedlock and get the divorce rate lower. Daycare problem solved.

Sorry to be shouting at you from 1950.

You can *kind of* do this but the reality is that a lot of those jobs lost to China will instead go off to other cheap places; Malaysia, India, Philippines, etc. It's already happening. Trump had the right idea with bilateral trade deals with individual countries.

Cracking down on illegal aliens, reinvigorating trade job training, and getting government the fuck out of the way of the economy are all more likely to improve the working man's wages than wishing 50's era manufacturing will return.


As to the second part, the only real policy thing to do is to stop incentivizing divorce(for women) and to dismantle the government as middle man child-support racket. Otherwise, get government the fuck out of culture as fast as we can.

Bob_C

Just got back from getting my 3.5 year old a Covid test. Sent home from daycare for diarrhea. State regulations. Negative test as expected. Positive antibodies from a month ago. Probably the tenth negative Covid test she has taken.

Did our president get a Covid test for his diarrhea?

TheKobeStopper

Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

RaceBannon

You guys

TheKobeStopper

I remember when Race used to set the trends. Now he’s reduced to copying the lamest cop outs.

RaceBannon

Pitchfork51

The classic politician move is to take something that everyone wants or that sounds good (child poverty!) And then load it up with nonsense and then go see! They hate children!

pawz

TheKobeStopper said:

Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

English please.

hardhat

TheKobeStopper said:

Is this anything like when you guys say universal healthcare costs more because you add on the new cost and never subtract the current cost?

If you understood basic economics, you might be able to understand what cost means in this scenario. And there's a chance if you understood economics you also wouldn't have such childish views. Do better.