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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,407
    Tequilla said:

    Fickell is USC … his former AD is there

    I’d avoid Tom Herman … too many red flags based on what I’ve heard

    Chadwell and DeBoer are worth monitoring … Chadwell is doing some really strong things with Coastal

    Whoever the hire they need to have some offensive chops given how the game is coaching and while not an absolute deal breaker they need to be able have had experience running their own program

    Good point about his AD being at USC.

    Deboer or (De)Bust?
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,111
    sonics1993 said:

    Jeff Hafley is my number one choice. Former Ohio State DC back when Ohio State had a good defense, great play-caller, one of the best recruiters in the country, is doing a great job building the Boston College program. I know a couple of LA high school coaches who rave about him, but all of this is a dream. I can't see Jimmy getting fired after this year.

    The BC turnaround is impressive

    Agreed that if you’re doing a legit search he’s someone you should talk to and quite possibly could get
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,407
    Thanks for mentioning Hafley. He's doing a nice job there and spent 3 seasons in SF too (DB coach from 2016-2018 for the 49'ers before heading to OSU to be the DC for 2019).
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,407
    Another possibility:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Traylor
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  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    Whats pat hill up to these days?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,340 Founders Club
    79smoothdawg said:

    Whats pat hill up to these days?

    We'll go with fair and balanced




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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,846
    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,407
    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,111
    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    edited September 2021
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
    Let’s assume uw eats existing coaches contracts. What makes you think they are going to pay for a think bigger type of candidate. They haven’t made a hire like that since neuheisel. I think at the time he was in the top 2 or 3 paid when they signed him.

    Uw doesn’t spend like that. They lucked out with Pete as. He certainly could have got more money a number of other places.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    edited September 2021
    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
    Let’s assume uw eats existing coaches contracts. What makes you think they are going to pay for a think bigger type of candidate. They haven’t made a hire like that since neuheisel. I think at the time he was in the top 2 or 3 paid when they signed him.

    Uw doesn’t spend like that. They lucked out with Pete as. He certainly could have got more money a number of other places.
    So you fire Jimmy, eat a shit ton of money, and then you go hire on the cheap hoping you can work a miracle by getting it right?

    Fucking stupid ass strategy
    Ding ding. Where is all this new found money coming from? That’s the question. If they can suddenly pay a coach 7 million that’s great. What makes you think they could or would. We have not been that program for decades now.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    hardhat said:

    The money is there. Not necessarily from one donor, but there are enough UW alumni that can do this. It's on the Athletic Department to get that all organized. And obviously they can't.

    I think they can still spend toward the upper teams in the conference. But the big ten and sec have left the conference in the dust with coaches comp. interested to see how it plays out. Our fanbase is not nearly as interested as it used to be. I’m all for it. Just hasn’t been that way for decades.
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  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Just waiting for the UW AD to tell us fans that we need to be Oregon again.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,111
    AtomicDawg said:

    hardhat said:

    The money is there. Not necessarily from one donor, but there are enough UW alumni that can do this. It's on the Athletic Department to get that all organized. And obviously they can't.

    I think they can still spend toward the upper teams in the conference. But the big ten and sec have left the conference in the dust with coaches comp. interested to see how it plays out. Our fanbase is not nearly as interested as it used to be. I’m all for it. Just hasn’t been that way for decades.
    UW along with Oregon are the top 2 revenue ADs in the conference (all depends on how much in a given year Uncle Phil pushes in)

    There’s no reason that the Athletic Department can’t spend $$$

    That said, there’s a lot of buyouts needed because of Jen’s shitty stewardship of the program …

    I’m not sure how many are that interested in giving her $$$ to burn
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  • Tequilla
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    theknowledge said:

    I wonder if Kliavkoff is telling his marquee programs to get their shit right. Spend the money, fix your program and he will sell it and get everyone back in the black when the TV contract comes up. Selling USC with Meyer or Petersen, UCLA with Chip, Oregon with Nike and UW with Matt Campbell or Jeramy Chadwell would be easier than presenting Helton and Lake to CBS. I don't know how it all works. Does Kliavkoff have any sway or can he put any pressure on the AD's to get their acts together? Seems that the Lake/Cohen UW connection is making GK's sell job harder.

    It’s not a terrible theory and one that he’s probably having roundabout conversations with the Presidents about

    Got to spend $$$ to make $$$
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,179
    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    hardhat said:

    The money is there. Not necessarily from one donor, but there are enough UW alumni that can do this. It's on the Athletic Department to get that all organized. And obviously they can't.

    I think they can still spend toward the upper teams in the conference. But the big ten and sec have left the conference in the dust with coaches comp. interested to see how it plays out. Our fanbase is not nearly as interested as it used to be. I’m all for it. Just hasn’t been that way for decades.
    UW along with Oregon are the top 2 revenue ADs in the conference (all depends on how much in a given year Uncle Phil pushes in)

    There’s no reason that the Athletic Department can’t spend $$$

    That said, there’s a lot of buyouts needed because of Jen’s shitty stewardship of the program …

    I’m not sure how many are that interested in giving her $$$ to burn
    USC? Their numbers aren’t public but I would guess they’re above both Oregon and UW.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,111
    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    hardhat said:

    The money is there. Not necessarily from one donor, but there are enough UW alumni that can do this. It's on the Athletic Department to get that all organized. And obviously they can't.

    I think they can still spend toward the upper teams in the conference. But the big ten and sec have left the conference in the dust with coaches comp. interested to see how it plays out. Our fanbase is not nearly as interested as it used to be. I’m all for it. Just hasn’t been that way for decades.
    UW along with Oregon are the top 2 revenue ADs in the conference (all depends on how much in a given year Uncle Phil pushes in)

    There’s no reason that the Athletic Department can’t spend $$$

    That said, there’s a lot of buyouts needed because of Jen’s shitty stewardship of the program …

    I’m not sure how many are that interested in giving her $$$ to burn
    USC? Their numbers aren’t public but I would guess they’re above both Oregon and UW.
    They actually aren’t from the things that I’ve read in the last few years

    UW/Oregon in the $130M+ range

    USC around $120M

    UCLA under that
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,368 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
    Let’s assume uw eats existing coaches contracts. What makes you think they are going to pay for a think bigger type of candidate. They haven’t made a hire like that since neuheisel. I think at the time he was in the top 2 or 3 paid when they signed him.

    Uw doesn’t spend like that. They lucked out with Pete as. He certainly could have got more money a number of other places.
    So you fire Jimmy, eat a shit ton of money, and then you go hire on the cheap hoping you can work a miracle by getting it right?

    Fucking stupid ass strategy
    And as long as Cohen is still there this is exactly what they’ll do.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,166
    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
    Let’s assume uw eats existing coaches contracts. What makes you think they are going to pay for a think bigger type of candidate. They haven’t made a hire like that since neuheisel. I think at the time he was in the top 2 or 3 paid when they signed him.

    Uw doesn’t spend like that. They lucked out with Pete as. He certainly could have got more money a number of other places.
    So you fire Jimmy, eat a shit ton of money, and then you go hire on the cheap hoping you can work a miracle by getting it right?

    Fucking stupid ass strategy
    I'm glad you're finally up to speed with Jen Cohen's AD.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,166
    theknowledge said:

    I wonder if Kliavkoff is telling his marquee programs to get their shit right. Spend the money, fix your program and he will sell it and get everyone back in the black when the TV contract comes up. Selling USC with Meyer or Petersen, UCLA with Chip, Oregon with Nike and UW with Matt Campbell or Jeramy Chadwell would be easier than presenting Helton and Lake to CBS. I don't know how it all works. Does Kliavkoff have any sway or can he put any pressure on the AD's to get their acts together? Seems that the Lake/Cohen UW connection is making GK's sell job harder.

    I doubt there's necessarily a script for these kinds of relationships. If Kliavkoff can sell, then part of that selling is convincing presidents and ADs to spend the money now to see bigger returns in TV deals further down the line. No fucking idea what the odds are of any of them being receptive to it.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,241 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    Tequilla said:

    AtomicDawg said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    dnc said:

    HFNY said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    Head Coach Kellen Moore 3 mil
    Moore's extension with the Cowboys. $2M per year is obviously on the higher side for coordinators in the NFL and it is a third of McCarthy's reported salary.

    DC Jeff Choate 750k
    2 years -- $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)

    Co-DC defense Line Tosh Lupoi

    Moore has never been an HC and that is what Lake's problem has been. He is getting paid big bucks to learn on the job and the Huskies need a HC who has learned somewhere else first.

    Moore has been a coordinator at the NFL under two head coaches as opposed to Lake who was sort of a coordinator at the college level for two years under one coach.

    Moore is far more qualified than Lake ever was.

    I'm not on the hire Moore bandwagon but the new hire doesn't have to have HC experience. He does need to have a resume much better than Jimmy's.
    Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes I would have Moore on the list but not in the top 3. Of course if Fickell goes to USC, Deboer would move up to 1st and Choate would be 2nd. Moore or one of the smaller school guys would be 3rd.
    Have to think bigger

    Those are good Plan B or plan C candidates
    Let’s assume uw eats existing coaches contracts. What makes you think they are going to pay for a think bigger type of candidate. They haven’t made a hire like that since neuheisel. I think at the time he was in the top 2 or 3 paid when they signed him.

    Uw doesn’t spend like that. They lucked out with Pete as. He certainly could have got more money a number of other places.
    So you fire Jimmy, eat a shit ton of money, and then you go hire on the cheap hoping you can work a miracle by getting it right?

    Fucking stupid ass strategy
    And as long as Cohen is still there this is exactly what they’ll do.
    A Q, are there provisions in any of the football coaches buyouts like there is for Hop?

    Edit: re reduced buyout numbers if Jen is toast.

    Please God just give me this.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,340 Founders Club
    I laughed. Hint the guy pictured is the original doog legend.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,340 Founders Club
    Ryan Day must be nervous.

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