How many wins does Jimmy need?

insinceredawg

This is my guess on what Cohen does based on this year's record. This is not what I'd do if I were the AD so don't twist. I would've canned his ass midway through the 4th quarter.

8+ wins - Jimmy stays with the staff intact
6 to 7 wins - Jimmy stays but JonDon and maybe a couple other coaches gone
3 to 5 wins - Jimmy stays but a major staff overhaul
0 to 2 wins - Jimmy era is over

PurpleBaze

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

RaceBannon

BONEM

BeerThirty

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

PurpleBaze

BeerThirty said:

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

Who is the dipshit who hired him?

BeerThirty

Jimmy doesn't get fired after this year no matter what. JonDone should

insinceredawg

PurpleBaze said:

BeerThirty said:

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

Who is the dipshit who hired him?

It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

The only reasons I could come up with are
-Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
-Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
-Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

insinceredawg said:

PurpleBaze said:

BeerThirty said:

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

Who is the dipshit who hired him?

It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

The only reasons I could come up with are
-Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
-Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
-Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it

He should've kept Hamdan around if this was his plan.

GreenRiverGatorz

insinceredawg said:

PurpleBaze said:

BeerThirty said:

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

Who is the dipshit who hired him?

It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

The only reasons I could come up with are
-Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
-Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
-Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it

I'm going with door #2. He's done too much unorthodox shit for it to not be intentional. Kwat bolting and recruits shying away were the first signs that the unorthodox shit was a big swing and a miss. And now everyone's caught up to speed.

insinceredawg

GreenRiverGatorz said:

insinceredawg said:

PurpleBaze said:

BeerThirty said:

PurpleBaze said:

Dealing in hypotheticals are we?

Personally, I'm not a fan of shuffling assistants. It's basically a way for the head coach to place the blame on someone else to save his own bacon. The HC usually ends up replacing one shitty assistant with another one who may or may not be less shitty.

You have to flush the whole staff.

Seven or fewer wins _should_ be unacceptable. This is not a team that is coming off an 0wen season.

but we have one assistant that is so bad that he should have "cleaned his locker out" right after that game

Who is the dipshit who hired him?

It is still mind boggling what Jimmy's hiring process was that ended up with him offering JonDon the job at 900k/year. How the fuck did that happen?! I don't believe for a second his bullshit about how all his NFL contacts telling him about JonDon. The guy was buried in an analyst role for one of the worse franchises in the league. He was probably more surprised than anyone that someone actually wanted to give him a job.

The only reasons I could come up with are
-Jimmy struck out on every other option and in an act of desperation he had to give the next guy an offer he couldn't refuse, even if he was bidding against himself
-Jimmy wanted to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by hiring a loser retread and winning with him
-Jimmy didn't want an offense that would outshine his defense so he intentionally hired a terrible OC and thought his defense would be good enough to win despite it

I'm going with door #2. He's done too much unorthodox shit for it to not be intentional. Kwat bolting and recruits shying away were the first signs that the unorthodox shit was a big swing and a miss. And now everyone's caught up to speed.

I tend to agree. His approach to hiring and recruiting gives off a "I'm so smart I can win with any assistant and any player" energy. The question now is did the Montana loss humble him at all?

RedRocket

Jimmy has a long leash. Needs 3+ so long as most of the losses aren't complete blowouts. Jon Don will get canned next time offense plays like shit so probably this week after Michigan. Junior fills in as interim OC. Rebuilding and incremental improvement becomes the new script.

RaceBannon

Jimmy doesn't strike me as a hate to lose guy

At UW the coach has to pressure himself because Jenni won't.

doogie

Winning isn’t important

There is nothing Jimmy could do to get fired

Tequilla

To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

BleachedAnusDawg

Tequilla said:

To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

The entire AD is a shitshow. Jen needs to go. This isn't even a question.

RaceBannon

Tequilla said:

To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

How could you not be sure?

chuck

Jimmy will be forced to do some staff restructuring if he wins less than 6 games.

That is all.

Tequilla

RaceBannon said:

Tequilla said:

To me it all comes down to how empty the stands get and what the threat is that $$$ dries up

If Jimmy isn’t fired after this year, I could see Jen getting the ax in the Spring when she miscalculates how much her decisions on retaining both Hop and Lake have on renewals and revenues crashing

I’m not sure at this point if I think it’s more important for Jen or Jimmy to be fired first

How could you not be sure?

Because there’s implications either way that influence the other

JackDonakey

I think we have 0 to 2 wins but Jimmy and his staff stick around to do it again next year. Then he gets fired.

RaceBannon

I think both Jimmy and Pete failed to learn the lesson Nick learned. A control freak hold on the offense to not make mistakes and a lock down defense wins games. Didn't work against the big boys for Pete and didn't work against Montana for Jimmy. Good times ahead

There's a reason Nick started smoking weed and talking shit like Lane Kiffin. You can't be afraid to let the offense eat. Go for it on 4th down more. Light it up.

We? wear out our defense anyway with three and outs. Wear them out with quick scores. At least its entertaining

RedRocket

RaceBannon said:

Jimmy doesn't strike me as a hate to lose guy

At UW the coach has to pressure himself because Jenni won't.

He hates that losing gets in the way of a good nights sleep.