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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,273 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    We don’t actually want that to happen, nor do we expect it. It was reported as a rumor, so we commented on it. Also, it’s impossible for me to stop talking.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,455 Founders Club

    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    We don’t actually want that to happen, nor do we expect it. It was reported as a rumor, so we commented on it. Also, it’s impossible for me to stop talking.
    I wouldn't mind Okie State coming to the Pac-12. I've been saying that for weeks.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,113
    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    Free pub!
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    Haven’t listened …

    But if that’s the order of schools/programs pining for then there’s a real lack of understanding where the $$$ is in the Big 12
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,273 Founders Club
    OK State still has T Boone Pickens money. It’s Stillwater but the money is real
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    OK State still has T Boone Pickens money. It’s Stillwater but the money is real

    Okie Lite would be a Top 2 add for me out of the Big 12

    Decent sized alumni base and strong in a number of sports

    Like you said, they have $$$
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,455 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    OK State still has T Boone Pickens money. It’s Stillwater but the money is real

    Okie Lite would be a Top 2 add for me out of the Big 12

    Decent sized alumni base and strong in a number of sports

    Like you said, they have $$$
    that is basically what was said in the podcast
  • ForeskinWalletDawg
    ForeskinWalletDawg Member Posts: 238
    We do seem cursed by regressign QBs
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,273 Founders Club
    edited August 2021
    I would add Houston over most of their schools left. Big money market that still cares about football. Small stadium though
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,142
    Tequilla said:

    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    Haven’t listened …

    But if that’s the order of schools/programs pining for then there’s a real lack of understanding where the $$$ is in the Big 12
    I know football is king, but Kansas, despite their arguably worst in the nation P-5 football program, would seem to be a catch considering their blue blood status in basketball.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    OK State still has T Boone Pickens money. It’s Stillwater but the money is real

    Okie Lite would be a Top 2 add for me out of the Big 12

    Decent sized alumni base and strong in a number of sports

    Like you said, they have $$$
    that is basically what was said in the podcast
    Who is your other Top 2 add? Baylor?
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,637 Founders Club
    Houston, Tech, Okie State and TCU. That would give the P12 11 of the top 30 media markets(I’m counting Sacramento and San Diego) in America with which to negotiate your new TV deal.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    TTJ said:

    Adding Baylor? Okie light? BYU? KSfU?

    Christ. Stop talking.

    Haven’t listened …

    But if that’s the order of schools/programs pining for then there’s a real lack of understanding where the $$$ is in the Big 12
    I know football is king, but Kansas, despite their arguably worst in the nation P-5 football program, would seem to be a catch considering their blue blood status in basketball.
    If they were even remotely competitive in football they’re a no brainer for everybody

    They are so bad in football you could argue they’d be better off shutting it down … it’s limiting their long term future
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I would add Houston over most of their schools left. Big money market that still cares about football. Small stadium though

    Houston is trash in so many respects
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,455 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    OK State still has T Boone Pickens money. It’s Stillwater but the money is real

    Okie Lite would be a Top 2 add for me out of the Big 12

    Decent sized alumni base and strong in a number of sports

    Like you said, they have $$$
    that is basically what was said in the podcast
    Who is your other Top 2 add? Baylor?
    Exactly.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,273 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    I would add Houston over most of their schools left. Big money market that still cares about football. Small stadium though

    Houston is trash in so many respects
    I’m with ya. I’ll throw out a dark horse and that’s UNLV. It’s scraping the barrel but the new commish may have a soft spot
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,455 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance

    Baylor pours a lot of money into football and wants to be great
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance

    Baylor pours a lot of money into football and wants to be great
    Have you ever seen Baylor’s fan base?

    Bunch of 5’6” 150 pound gingers that don’t have an athletic bone in their bodies
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,113
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance

    Baylor pours a lot of money into football and wants to be great
    Have you ever seen Baylor’s fan base?

    Bunch of 5’6” 150 pound gingers that don’t have an athletic bone in their bodies
    That’s the male student population.

    Fans are old rich farmers and oil tycoons. Do you not read anything I post?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,455 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance

    Baylor pours a lot of money into football and wants to be great
    Have you ever seen Baylor’s fan base?

    Bunch of 5’6” 150 pound gingers that don’t have an athletic bone in their bodies



    They look fine to me.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    And that’s my point … Baylor isn’t in the Top 2 for adds … it’s debatable if they would be over Texas Tech to be honest

    From a combination of $$$, football performance, and recruiting … TCU blows Baylor out of the water

    What hurts both TCU and Baylor is that their footprints as private schools are a fraction of the alumni bases of state schools like Tech for instance

    Baylor pours a lot of money into football and wants to be great
    Have you ever seen Baylor’s fan base?

    Bunch of 5’6” 150 pound gingers that don’t have an athletic bone in their bodies
    That’s the male student population.

    Fans are old rich farmers and oil tycoons. Do you not read anything I post?
    I'm well aware of Baylor's fan base ... as well as the balance of the Big 12

    Baylor's middle of the road in the conference ...

    There's a huge gap between the Top 2 (and even in the top tier there is a decent sized gap) ... the differential between the remaining schools comes down to how you slice/dice the revenue streams and what you're prioritizing
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Derek,

    A few questions for you ...

    1) Provide in order your top 5 expansion candidates for the PAC 12 in order

    2) In the Big 12, provide the order that you think the 8 public school ADs generate revenue (TCU and Baylor are private and aren't required to publicly report) - notably who generates the revenues in football?

    3) Which Athletic Department do you think generates more $ between TCU and Baylor? Football Only? Where do you think the schools rank in the Big 12 Hierarchy in terms of football revenue? total revenue?

    4) Excluding Stanford/USC as private schools, rank the P12 Athletic Departments based on revenue generated?

    I'll happily fill in the blanks afterwards, but I'm really interested to get your perspective on where each program ranks in the pecking order of the conferences.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Derek,

    A few questions for you ...

    1) Provide in order your top 5 expansion candidates for the PAC 12 in order

    2) In the Big 12, provide the order that you think the 8 public school ADs generate revenue (TCU and Baylor are private and aren't required to publicly report) - notably who generates the revenues in football?

    3) Which Athletic Department do you think generates more $ between TCU and Baylor? Football Only? Where do you think the schools rank in the Big 12 Hierarchy in terms of football revenue? total revenue?

    4) Excluding Stanford/USC as private schools, rank the P12 Athletic Departments based on revenue generated?

    I'll happily fill in the blanks afterwards, but I'm really interested to get your perspective on where each program ranks in the pecking order of the conferences.

    I'll gladly do this homework assignment if you donate $10 to the site to help support it.
    It’s been on my to do list while traveling

    If you can find a way to not tag my donation level the contribution will come
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,113
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Derek,

    A few questions for you ...

    1) Provide in order your top 5 expansion candidates for the PAC 12 in order

    2) In the Big 12, provide the order that you think the 8 public school ADs generate revenue (TCU and Baylor are private and aren't required to publicly report) - notably who generates the revenues in football?

    3) Which Athletic Department do you think generates more $ between TCU and Baylor? Football Only? Where do you think the schools rank in the Big 12 Hierarchy in terms of football revenue? total revenue?

    4) Excluding Stanford/USC as private schools, rank the P12 Athletic Departments based on revenue generated?

    I'll happily fill in the blanks afterwards, but I'm really interested to get your perspective on where each program ranks in the pecking order of the conferences.

    I'll gladly do this homework assignment if you donate $10 to the site to help support it.
    It’s been on my to do list while traveling

    If you can find a way to not tag my donation level the contribution will come
    You sound poor.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Derek,

    A few questions for you ...

    1) Provide in order your top 5 expansion candidates for the PAC 12 in order

    2) In the Big 12, provide the order that you think the 8 public school ADs generate revenue (TCU and Baylor are private and aren't required to publicly report) - notably who generates the revenues in football?

    3) Which Athletic Department do you think generates more $ between TCU and Baylor? Football Only? Where do you think the schools rank in the Big 12 Hierarchy in terms of football revenue? total revenue?

    4) Excluding Stanford/USC as private schools, rank the P12 Athletic Departments based on revenue generated?

    I'll happily fill in the blanks afterwards, but I'm really interested to get your perspective on where each program ranks in the pecking order of the conferences.

    I'll gladly do this homework assignment if you donate $10 to the site to help support it.
    It’s been on my to do list while traveling

    If you can find a way to not tag my donation level the contribution will come
    You sound poor.
    Principled ... not poor
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,637 Founders Club
    C’mon man, Derek asked for $10.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    C’mon man, Derek asked for $10.

    You should go re-read what I responded with ...

    What I do or do not contribute isn't really anybody's business except for mine, Derek if he asks, and any moderator that directly asks me about it (and some of them know my perspective on this)