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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,664 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    The brass that Biden ignored?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    The brass that Biden ignored?
    You got the point. Good for you!
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620
    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620
    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
    We know you aren’t
    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620
    trublue said:

    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
    We know you aren’t
    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
    I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spade

    There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,523 Founders Club
    Elections matter.

    Stolen elections have consequences.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620
    edited August 2021
    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
    We know you aren’t
    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
    I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spade

    There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
    I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.

    I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.

    Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
    I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.

    $2T spent

    352,000 Afghan security forces trained

    2,000 Americans KIA

    The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.

    The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.

    Failure of intelligence?

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620

    Elections matter.

    Stolen elections have consequences.

    Belief in this evidence free notion of a stolen election should be embarrassing to you. Seriously.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    I realize it’s hard for you to realize that Biden has been POTUS since January 20, 2021.

    He was under no obligation to follow the agreement negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban.

    Remember Obama’s agreement with Iran? “Nuked” shortly after Trump took office.

    Biden could have done the same thing.

    Biden needs to put on his big boy pants, come out of hiding and own it.

    Perhaps, you could write his speech for him.

    Please provide him with some talking points, Counselor.

    The debacle was agreed to by Daddy and the withdrawal had already largely occurred by the time Biden took office. Biden had no stomach for telling the American people he was going to reverse the withdrawal because he and Daddy sought the exact same result here: Americans out of Afghanistan. I don't entirely blame Biden. Americans have no stomach for staying and it could have derailed his Presidency. Gawd knows you girls wouldn't be supporting his decision to send troops back in.

    Neither Daddy or Joe gives a shit about the fact that we were virtually certain at all times, before and after the deal was made, that Afghanistan would fall. That it would fall almost instantaneously is the only surprise here.

    I know you only care who this falls on politically. Any honest examination shows this to be a bipartisan failure.
    Yes a conditions based withdrawal Biden broke the agreement immediately and the Taliban said FU... facts matter
    Uhhhhhhh . . . day drinking?
    That's your answer? Biden broke the agreement in April and the Taliban immediately went on an offensive as they felt disrespected... answer that jackass...
    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:



    trublue said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/pentagon-biden-team-overrode-afghanistan-481556

    Read paragraphs 3-5 . . . Then STFU.

    This was Biden’s decision . . , He overruled the advice given to him by our military leadership re: the withdrawal.

    But, but, but Trump.

    Gawd, you’re stupid.

    Are you ever right on anything?

    You and Joe have a lot in common.

    You're confused again. What else is new?

    Joe is mismanaging this retreat and abandonment of Afghanistan.

    Daddy only agreed to it.

    Trump agreed to a conditions based withdrawal, not an out and out cut and run turbo
    As I had to point out to you yesterday, Daddy had reduced our numbers to 2,500 by the time he left to pout in Florida. Neither he nor Biden have held the Taliban to anything. The Taliban noticed.
    So Trump adjusted the amount of troops in Afghanistan to an acceptable amount to maintain stability.
    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
    We know you aren’t
    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
    I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spade

    There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
    I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.

    I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.

    Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
    I self admittedly don’t follow this type of stuff every single day into details

    My understanding on what Trump agreed to in the releases was a set of conditions that if violated would hold consequences …

    That said, I personally think it’s bad policy for the US Government to release prisoners barring special circumstances … this probably wouldn’t qualify

    People can wax or complain about Trump as a President …

    Biden’s a disaster and anybody that didn’t think he would be was fooling themselves …

    But does it even matter anymore? What % of the voting population actually can call it like they see it?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,620
    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
    I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.

    $2T spent

    352,000 Afghan security forces trained

    2,000 Americans KIA

    The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.

    The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.

    Failure of intelligence?

    I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.
  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,523 Founders Club
    When you announce four months ahead of time exactly when you're leaving you give the enemy four months to plan and prepare.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Afghan Interpreters Left Behind Despite Biden Administration’s Relocation Promise.

    Shameful . . .
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    HHusky said:

    trublue said:

    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
    I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.

    $2T spent

    352,000 Afghan security forces trained

    2,000 Americans KIA

    The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.

    The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.

    Failure of intelligence?

    I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.
    How?

    James Clapper, former CIA Director under Obama, denied on CNN today that it was a failure of intelligence.
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