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A Q for the bored re: vaccines

MikeDamone
MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
Are players required to get one to play? What happens if they refuse?
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  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,206 Standard Supporter
    They lose their freedom.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,227 Founders Club
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
  • LB_33
    LB_33 Member Posts: 324
    edited August 2021

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2021
    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    ntxduck said:

    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
    Being a pussy who gets their info from YouTube is a philosophical reason now?
    versus a really brave person who gets their info from CNN?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2021
    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
    Being a pussy who gets their info from YouTube is a philosophical reason now?
    versus a really brave person who gets their info from CNN?
    Or you know. Every scientific study and the actual vaccine efficacy and safety data (and not jpgs from Facebook). Who the fuck watches cable news of any kind? Cool burn though. Bet you really thought you had something there.

    For fucks sake. I asked about UW or pac12 policy you dumbfuck. Not a sermon on whatever you’re blathering about.

    I thought I really had something…like you thought you did with the YouTube comment. Fuck off. JFC.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2021
    Anyone know the answer? Seems like not.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
    Being a pussy who gets their info from YouTube is a philosophical reason now?
    versus a really brave person who gets their info from CNN?
    Or you know. Every scientific study and the actual vaccine efficacy and safety data (and not jpgs from Facebook). Who the fuck watches cable news of any kind? Cool burn though. Bet you really thought you had something there.

    For fucks sake. I asked about UW or pac12 policy you dumbfuck. Not a sermon on whatever you’re blathering about.

    I thought I really had something…like you thought you did with the YouTube comment. Fuck off. JFC.
    I would have chinned this had it come prior to the CNN retort. With the CNN retort, you lost the high ground. Clearly you care.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    Anyone know the answer? Seems like not.

    My non dickhead response; players aren’t required, but due to the extra Hoops they’ll have to jump through if not (testing/isolation/etc) id be surprised if they weren’t all >95% by Labor Day. UW is already at 90% which will be a huge competitive advantage for them if they get it to 100
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    As I said elsewheres, strictly from a football standpoint, I would strongly encourage players to get vaxxed IF it meant no tracing on positive tests. Preferably no testing at all actually. That ought to be the position: players all vaxxed, no routine testing.

    In a world that made sense, even some threshold close to 100% should mean that (80%, 90%, whatever). I mean, the vaccine itself isn't even 100% effective.

    Also, I think every team should designate one backup player to be their disease vector. Have the player who draws the short straw (and is vaccine hesitant) make out with a COVID-riddled staffer a week before game day, then make sure he's out on the field blowing snot on all of the opponent's best players. The fear of this happening might get the vaccine rates up league-wide and prevent canceled games/seasons and/or result in future losses for conference opponents.

    Win/win!
  • largemarge
    largemarge Guest, Member Posts: 72
    They’re gonna lockdown so it ain’t gonna matter
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
    Being a pussy who gets their info from YouTube is a philosophical reason now?
    versus a really brave person who gets their info from CNN?
    Or you know. Every scientific study and the actual vaccine efficacy and safety data (and not jpgs from Facebook). Who the fuck watches cable news of any kind? Cool burn though. Bet you really thought you had something there.

    For fucks sake. I asked about UW or pac12 policy you dumbfuck. Not a sermon on whatever you’re blathering about.

    I thought I really had something…like you thought you did with the YouTube comment. Fuck off. JFC.
    I would have chinned this had it come prior to the CNN retort. With the CNN retort, you lost the high ground. Clearly you care.
    Like we say….fuck off.


    My take away is no one here knows.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,862

    Are players required to get one to play? What happens if they refuse?

    No one here knows. Nice try though.
  • LB_33
    LB_33 Member Posts: 324
    Alright Damone - there is no official Pac-12 vaccine mandate, however all the NW schools have a loosely enforceable mandate of vaccinations per their websites. I would assume that the coaches and AD’s are strongly encouraging all players to get vaccinated so that they can avoid the contract tracing, the quarantines, etc and not have this impact the schedule.

    Reading between the tea leaves here, I doubt there is a way to enforce a student to get vaccinated legally, so it’s this weird thing grey area of encouragement.

    And here’s the kicker - the fucking SEC will probably have higher vaccinations than the Pac-12 because they’re committed to football and it just means more (money). I can only imagine Saban sitting at his office with a syringe telling the cunty backup left tackle that he’s gonna get the vaccine and not fuck up his season.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,229 Founders Club
    LB_33 said:

    Alright Damone - there is no official Pac-12 vaccine mandate, however all the NW schools have a loosely enforceable mandate of vaccinations per their websites. I would assume that the coaches and AD’s are strongly encouraging all players to get vaccinated so that they can avoid the contract tracing, the quarantines, etc and not have this impact the schedule.

    Readings between the tea leaves here, I doubt there is a way to enforce a student to get vaccinated legally, so it’s this weird thing grey area of encouragement.

    And here’s the kicker - the fucking SEC will probably have higher vaccinations than the Pac-12 because they’re committed to football and it just means more (money). I can only imagine Saban sitting at his office with a syringe telling the cunty backup left tackle that he’s gonna get the vaccine and not fuck up his season.

    I think Indiana university just won a court case mandating vaccines for all students. I assume there is a small set of exceptions.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    LB_33 said:

    Alright Damone - there is no official Pac-12 vaccine mandate, however all the NW schools have a loosely enforceable mandate of vaccinations per their websites. I would assume that the coaches and AD’s are strongly encouraging all players to get vaccinated so that they can avoid the contract tracing, the quarantines, etc and not have this impact the schedule.

    Readings between the tea leaves here, I doubt there is a way to enforce a student to get vaccinated legally, so it’s this weird thing grey area of encouragement.

    And here’s the kicker - the fucking SEC will probably have higher vaccinations than the Pac-12 because they’re committed to football and it just means more (money). I can only imagine Saban sitting at his office with a syringe telling the cunty backup left tackle that he’s gonna get the vaccine and not fuck up his season.

    I think Indiana university just won a court case mandating vaccines for all students. I assume there is a small set of exceptions.
    Basically every institution that “mandates” vaccines will have options for personal exemptions, including colleges. Direct from UW’s website:

    “Exemptions will be granted for medical reasons or for religious or philosophical objections.“
  • LB_33
    LB_33 Member Posts: 324
    NEsnake12 said:

    LB_33 said:

    Alright Damone - there is no official Pac-12 vaccine mandate, however all the NW schools have a loosely enforceable mandate of vaccinations per their websites. I would assume that the coaches and AD’s are strongly encouraging all players to get vaccinated so that they can avoid the contract tracing, the quarantines, etc and not have this impact the schedule.

    Readings between the tea leaves here, I doubt there is a way to enforce a student to get vaccinated legally, so it’s this weird thing grey area of encouragement.

    And here’s the kicker - the fucking SEC will probably have higher vaccinations than the Pac-12 because they’re committed to football and it just means more (money). I can only imagine Saban sitting at his office with a syringe telling the cunty backup left tackle that he’s gonna get the vaccine and not fuck up his season.

    I think Indiana university just won a court case mandating vaccines for all students. I assume there is a small set of exceptions.
    Basically every institution that “mandates” vaccines will have options for personal exemptions, including colleges. Direct from UW’s website:

    “Exemptions will be granted for medical reasons or for religious or philosophical objections.“
    Exactly. You can't get an actual mandate if there are exceptions. All the wash and ore schools have the exact same language.
  • LB_33
    LB_33 Member Posts: 324

    LB_33 said:

    Alright Damone - there is no official Pac-12 vaccine mandate, however all the NW schools have a loosely enforceable mandate of vaccinations per their websites. I would assume that the coaches and AD’s are strongly encouraging all players to get vaccinated so that they can avoid the contract tracing, the quarantines, etc and not have this impact the schedule.

    Readings between the tea leaves here, I doubt there is a way to enforce a student to get vaccinated legally, so it’s this weird thing grey area of encouragement.

    And here’s the kicker - the fucking SEC will probably have higher vaccinations than the Pac-12 because they’re committed to football and it just means more (money). I can only imagine Saban sitting at his office with a syringe telling the cunty backup left tackle that he’s gonna get the vaccine and not fuck up his season.

    I think Indiana university just won a court case mandating vaccines for all students. I assume there is a small set of exceptions.
    Per their website: With the ultimate goal of returning our campuses to normal operations, beginning with the fall 2021 semester, all Indiana University (including IUPUI) students, faculty and staff will be required to have a COVID-19 vaccine and be fully vaccinated or have an approved exemption before returning to campus. This requirement is part of IU’s ongoing successful response to and management of the COVID-19 pandemic on its campuses and will allow the university to lift most restrictions on masking and physical distancing.

    Same exact language as everyone else
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    LB_33 said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If they don't want a vaccine they don't get a free ride. They have the freedom of choice.

    You idiots are useless.

    I wasn’t asking your opinions. I know UW has a policy that students need to get vaccinated or file an exemption. Wondering if it’s the same for players. I haven’t read anything in it.
    Little bit of a paradox here. Students can’t be on campus without being vax and last I checked football players are somewhat students so if a football player doesn’t wanna get the needle poke is he not allowed on campus and no longer a student????

    In all honesty the Pac-12 should just require it so there aren’t any forfeits. The last thing this hemorrhoid of a conference needs is game cancellations or a walk on playing qb in the Pac-12 championship game.

    Students can file an exemption. Which includes “philosophical reasons”
    Being a pussy who gets their info from YouTube is a philosophical reason now?
    versus a really brave person who gets their info from CNN?
    Or you know. Every scientific study and the actual vaccine efficacy and safety data (and not jpgs from Facebook). Who the fuck watches cable news of any kind? Cool burn though. Bet you really thought you had something there.

    For fucks sake. I asked about UW or pac12 policy you dumbfuck. Not a sermon on whatever you’re blathering about.

    I thought I really had something…like you thought you did with the YouTube comment. Fuck off. JFC.
    I would have chinned this had it come prior to the CNN retort. With the CNN retort, you lost the high ground. Clearly you care.
    Like we say….fuck off.


    My take away is no one here knows.
    This shit's been widely known for the last month. You yourself even acknowledged the personal exemptions wrinkle. Go ahead and PM @IrishDawg22 the next time you need directions.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Football players: "My body is a temple, and I don't want a dangerous substance in me that is only FDA approved for emergency use and hasn't been proven safe, never mind decades of research and development and clinical trials of tens of thousands of patients."

    Also football players: "Rhino cum is not FDA approved for the purpose of being good at football, but it's known by the scientific community to cause heart and liver damage, increase risk of testicular cancer, and lead to bitch tits. Jam that shit in my ass!"
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    Jam that shit in my ass!"

    Sounds like something you'd hear in a locker room for the other kind of football.

    Or prison.