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It’s not REAL socialism though

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  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Aspirin is “medicine” to the average person in Cuba.

    It’s eye-opening, actually shocking, to hear the stories of Cuban-Americans who have gone back to visit relatives who remained . . .
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,727 Founders Club

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    More countries that need capitalist America to survive

    So what?
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    How about you “do” them first since you’re touting them as socialist utopias?

    Funny, how restrictive Canada and Switzerland are on their immigration policies.

    If you wish, throw England into the stew.

    I’ll be more than happy to respond.
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    edited July 2021
    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    RoadTrip said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072

    RoadTrip said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
    So Cuba isn't socialist because Canada is socialist. Kunt logic, is there anything it can't do?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072

    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
    Civil war. You ready?
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    What percentage is the “Grand majority of the Left in the US?”

    I’m sure the “Left” wants “EVERYONE ELSE” to pay their fair share.

    In case you haven’t noticed, this country is broke.

  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter


    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    British national dental care system is top notch!
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    Sledog said:


    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    British national dental care system is top notch!
    As usual your argument is dumb. Now do the other countries.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072


    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    Now try listing countries that are actually socialist/communist. Lou Dobbs!!!!
    Wait a minute now… I specifically remember you and I having a discussion about nationalized healthcare and I brought up these European (and Canada)countries that are absolutely capitalist but have strong social safety nets and they were “socialist” for that discussion. So what are they?
    Just because you have a national healthcare systems doesn't mean you're Cuba.
    Does having a national healthcare system mean you’re Socialist? That was the argument you made.
    You're the one who is now arguing that having nationalized healthcare makes you just like Cuba. The topic here was Cuban socialism/communism and why Cuba has such a shitty economy and shortages of consumer goods and the US embargo is the excuse loser leftists always make while the ignore the fact that Cuban can't even provide their people with enough food to eat.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Most European countries have mostly open borders. Canada and Switzerland do not.
    The vast majority of the other countries (as they currently exist) will be swept into the dust bins of history.

    They do not have replacement rates for reproduction and the past and future immigrant surges will simply overwhelm their social safety nets.

    Many of their immigrants have come from very different cultures and assimilation into the prevailing culture has been and will continue to be highly problematic.

    Some of these immigrants like to have large families, while the European nationals apparently do not.

  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
    SFGbob said:

    trublue said:

    SFGbob said:

    Impose sanctions.

    Cause shortages.

    Finger wag about socialism.

    They trade with nearly every other country on the planet. They have shortages because of their shitty government and economic system.
    “ . . . because their nomenklatura (pigs at the top) take their cut/slice of the pie first. The citizens of Cuba get to fight over the leftovers/scraps.
    You might be able to make the argument that Cuba has more difficulty getting things like farm equipment and certain types of medical equipment because of the embargo but it has nothing to do with why the shelves of the grocery stores are always empty and why there is always shortages for things like toilet paper and meat. Kobe as usual has his head up his ass.
    That wasn’t the argument at all. The original post was about “real” socialism and had Italy, Greece and Spain. In fact Cuba wasn’t even part of the original argument.

    You’re doing great, Bob.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021

    RoadTrip said:

    Now do Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Canada, France and Switzerland.

    You're too stupid to understand, in many cases, these countries are more capitalist than the CSA today.
    The grand majority of the Left in the US would prefer European style “socialism.” Are you against that?
    If people want rationed care, cool. Leave an option for people who don’t want to pay into it and can pay as they go or go through some type of insurance system. I believe Switzerland has viable options.

    There are enough Government programs and they simply have not worked well (they’re Ponzi Schemes with insatiable appetites for more money) and are inefficient.

    They’re very good at creating gigantic bureaucracies . . . Not very good at actual solutions.





  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    Rubber just wants free shit.
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