Afghans fighting like the French for their freedom. And Bush and the rest of the neocons thought they could turn the country into Vermont. Biden's team negotiating like crazy. Geezus.
Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. diplomat who negotiated a withdrawal deal with the Taliban last year, is back in Doha, Qatar, desperately trying to cobble together some kind of face-saving agreement for the Afghan government that would allow them to leave the country alive.
The reason for Khalilzad’s haste is that the rate of collapse by the Afghan army has accelerated beyond anyone’s imaginings [Seriously, like this is a phucking surprise] from just a couple of weeks ago. The Taliban took its 7th provincial capital on Tuesday and show absolutely no sign of slowing down their military offensive in order to negotiate a power-sharing deal with the Afghan government.
The Biden administration admits the situation is desperate. State Department spokesman Ned Price said in a briefing that the State Department was “focused on the diplomacy”—as if the Taliban care about that.
“What we are doing around the clock is seeking to find a way out of this. And here, in this department, in the Department of State, we are focused on the diplomacy,” said Price. “We are going to exhaust every diplomatic avenue, because we know the stakes if we fail to do that.”
“What we have seen in recent days, in recent weeks, the violence, the loss of life, the aggression, it is of grave concern,” he added. “If this violence continues, if the Taliban continues down this path, we are likely to see a prolonged, protracted period of violence, of instability, and that is not in anyone’s interest.”
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The only thing in the Taliban’s interest is victory. And you don’t achieve victory by negotiating away your advantages with the enemy.
Twice in my lifetime I've watched a decade (more) long war takes thousands of American lives only to have us LEAVE and things go back to how they were or worse within a month or so. If you aren't going to finish then don't start.
Twice in my lifetime I've watched a decade (more) long war takes thousands of American lives only to have us LEAVE and things go back to how they were or worse within a month or so. If you aren't going to finish then don't start.
Totally agree. Never let politicians dictate HOW a war is fought or approve target lists. Ever! Kill them all then leave!
You can't fix stupid, you can only kill it. Took two world wars to take a huge chunk out of Germany's male population to fix them. No damage to Germany's infrastructure in the first World War. At the end of the second World War the rubble was bouncing in Berlin.
Took taking a huge chunk out of the Japanese male population in World War II and we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki because all the other places were burned to the ground.
That's what it takes to fix a hard military culture. We had no intention of doing that in Vietnam, Afghanistan or Iraq. After that is just neocons playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes with American lives.
Twice in my lifetime I've watched a decade (more) long war takes thousands of American lives only to have us LEAVE and things go back to how they were or worse within a month or so. If you aren't going to finish then don't start.
Every Empire does this.
Congratulate yourself for being an Imperialist Oppressor.
Twice in my lifetime I've watched a decade (more) long war takes thousands of American lives only to have us LEAVE and things go back to how they were or worse within a month or so. If you aren't going to finish then don't start.
Every Empire does this.
Congratulate yourself for being an Imperialist Oppressor.
Much better than being Oppressed.
The great empires also had different rules of engagement. Just like we did during World War II. Even today, leftards whine about our nuking Japan.
========== Caesar's great successes left the remaining Gauls believing that their defeat was the will of the gods, and they eventually capitulated. Caesar administered his most ruthless punishment yet, cutting off the hands of all those men who bore arms against Rome.
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Ummm….
How do you feel about our neighbors experiencing houslessness.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/08/11/fall-of-kabul-imminent-taliban-could-take-over-afghanistan-within-weeks-n1468609
Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. diplomat who negotiated a withdrawal deal with the Taliban last year, is back in Doha, Qatar, desperately trying to cobble together some kind of face-saving agreement for the Afghan government that would allow them to leave the country alive.
The reason for Khalilzad’s haste is that the rate of collapse by the Afghan army has accelerated beyond anyone’s imaginings [Seriously, like this is a phucking surprise] from just a couple of weeks ago. The Taliban took its 7th provincial capital on Tuesday and show absolutely no sign of slowing down their military offensive in order to negotiate a power-sharing deal with the Afghan government.
The Biden administration admits the situation is desperate. State Department spokesman Ned Price said in a briefing that the State Department was “focused on the diplomacy”—as if the Taliban care about that.
“What we are doing around the clock is seeking to find a way out of this. And here, in this department, in the Department of State, we are focused on the diplomacy,” said Price. “We are going to exhaust every diplomatic avenue, because we know the stakes if we fail to do that.”
“What we have seen in recent days, in recent weeks, the violence, the loss of life, the aggression, it is of grave concern,” he added. “If this violence continues, if the Taliban continues down this path, we are likely to see a prolonged, protracted period of violence, of instability, and that is not in anyone’s interest.”
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The only thing in the Taliban’s interest is victory. And you don’t achieve victory by negotiating away your advantages with the enemy.
Took taking a huge chunk out of the Japanese male population in World War II and we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki because all the other places were burned to the ground.
That's what it takes to fix a hard military culture. We had no intention of doing that in Vietnam, Afghanistan or Iraq. After that is just neocons playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes with American lives.
Congratulate yourself for being an Imperialist Oppressor.
Much better than being Oppressed.
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Caesar's great successes left the remaining Gauls believing that their defeat was the will of the gods, and they eventually capitulated. Caesar administered his most ruthless punishment yet, cutting off the hands of all those men who bore arms against Rome.