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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    Any of you Bidentards want to tell us how you grow an economy from the bottom? If trickle down doesn't work explain how trickle up works please

    Or just deflect, deny and ignore per usual
    #Keynes
    #Keynes Marx. Fixed it for you.

    Keynes was a capitalist. He even stated, in plain English that he was on the side of the capitalists: ... But he also understood that unfettered capitalism could actually undermine its own existence and lead to socialism.
    In your own words, Gasbag, explain how Joe's plan is not Keynsian, but is actually Marxist.
    I believe the jury is still waiting on how we build the economy from the bottom up. Raise taxes on the poor? Enlighten us
    You should have listened to the rest of the speech.

    Your taxes wouldn't rise. Mine would.
    Interesting how you need a change in the tax law in order to do something that you claim you already want to do.
    If I want to play a basketball game, I don't try to play it by myself.

    It's never been my goal to raise only my own taxes.
    There are plenty of people just like you who claim they want higher taxes. You don't need to play it by yourself. But nice try dumbfuck.
    So you're proposing that we all subsidize the people who earn as much or more than we do. Maybe we do that to some extent through charitable donations, but people earning the kind of money we're talking about should be paying at a higher marginal tax rate.
    Letting people keep more of the money they earn only qualifies as a "subsidy" to people who believe every dollar really belongs to the government.

    but people earning the kind of money we're talking about should be paying at a higher marginal tax rate.

    They already are. But with leftist it's never enough. Because as we can see with Biden's spending, they can never spend enough.

    You know what's going to happen after all this spending. All the "inequality" that Biden says he wants to address is still going to be there because the reasons for the inequality have nothing to do with a lack of money. We are going to piss away trillions and every problem the left bitches about now will still be there after we've done so.

    Providing "free" daycare isn't going get rid of inequality. All it will do is piss away Billions on daycare/childcare centers that most successful people wouldn't put their dogs into.
    A return to "leftist" GWB rates.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,487 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HHusky said:

    alumni94 said:

    HHusky said:

    alumni94 said:

    The whole time I had this meme in my head while listening. I had to turn it off when he started to talk about taxes.


    Busy making those bank transfers to Switzerland?
    yes.
    Good move! Joe's coming after us richies.
    You're not rich
    whatever you say

    but my taxes would rise under the proposal I heard Joe make last night
    Your butt boy benny claims Trump raised taxes. You should be happy
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:




    Any of you Bidentards want to tell us how you grow an economy from the bottom? If trickle down doesn't work explain how trickle up works please

    Or just deflect, deny and ignore per usual
    #Keynes
    #Keynes Marx. Fixed it for you.

    Keynes was a capitalist. He even stated, in plain English that he was on the side of the capitalists: ... But he also understood that unfettered capitalism could actually undermine its own existence and lead to socialism.
    In your own words, Gasbag, explain how Joe's plan is not Keynsian, but is actually Marxist.
    I believe the jury is still waiting on how we build the economy from the bottom up. Raise taxes on the poor? Enlighten us
    You should have listened to the rest of the speech.

    Your taxes wouldn't rise. Mine would.
    Interesting how you need a change in the tax law in order to do something that you claim you already want to do.
    If I want to play a basketball game, I don't try to play it by myself.

    It's never been my goal to raise only my own taxes.
    I wouldn't mind if it happened
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582

    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HHusky said:

    alumni94 said:

    HHusky said:

    alumni94 said:

    The whole time I had this meme in my head while listening. I had to turn it off when he started to talk about taxes.


    Busy making those bank transfers to Switzerland?
    yes.
    Good move! Joe's coming after us richies.
    You're not rich
    whatever you say

    but my taxes would rise under the proposal I heard Joe make last night
    Your butt boy benny claims Trump raised taxes. You should be happy
    You should talk to him about it.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917
    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,913 Founders Club

    It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.

    And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    RoadTrip said:

    It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.

    And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.
    Reagan was as Keynesian as can be. The Boomers were in their 20s and 30s too. We had a lot going for us.

    But the myth that followed--that cutting taxes is like magic and raising them is forbidden--has done a lot of damage.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,487 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.

    And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.
    Reagan was as Keynesian as can be. The Boomers were in their 20s and 30s too. We had a lot going for us.

    But the myth that followed--that cutting taxes is like magic and raising them is forbidden--has done a lot of damage.
    That poor strawman
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,913 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    Homefuckingrun here Bob!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    The USA doesn't have a demographic problem. China definitely does. And it's their own fault. The USA will be just fine, thanks to our superior economic system that certain people want to destroy, and to our horrible racist immigration system that allows nearly anyone to come here.



    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/world-population-2100-country/
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    The USA doesn't have a demographic problem. China definitely does. And it's their own fault. The USA will be just fine, thanks to our superior economic system that certain people want to destroy, and to our horrible racist immigration system that allows nearly anyone to come here.



    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/world-population-2100-country/
    That's not Rider ball.

    Total population isn't the issue. We have old fuckers coming out our ears.

    What about kids?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,487 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    Any money Joe lol raises is already spent and he will end up raising less by raising taxes

    But still
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    Any money Joe lol raises is already spent and he will end up raising less by raising taxes

    But still
    We all understand that Daddy ran huge deficits. Still, Joe's proposal includes paying for Joe's proposal.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    Any money Joe lol raises is already spent and he will end up raising less by raising taxes

    But still
    It's always pay your fair share. You live in Cali and right now the wealthy are paying a top rate over 50% on their additional income. Taking more than half of someone's money doesn't seem fair to me. And Cali is screaming for more money to cover their government employee pension give away and for being the nation's welfare magnet to illegal aliens. Central planning at it's finest.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,487 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?

    How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.

    I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.

    And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
    Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.

    Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler?
    Joe's proposing to pay for it. So other than that, fabulous point!

    We've got a demographic problem. I think we'd better wise up and start providing a lot of benies to people of child rearing age. (We could steal that idea from China! They have the same problem and they're addressing it.)
    Any money Joe lol raises is already spent and he will end up raising less by raising taxes

    But still
    We all understand that Daddy ran huge deficits. Still, Joe's proposal includes paying for Joe's proposal.
    Just pathetic

    Joe ain't paying for shit. Just hurting the economy and ringing up the card
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,917

    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.

    And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.
    Reagan was as Keynesian as can be. The Boomers were in their 20s and 30s too. We had a lot going for us.

    But the myth that followed--that cutting taxes is like magic and raising them is forbidden--has done a lot of damage.
    That poor strawman
    I hope he is has good health insurance.
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