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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,868 Swaye's Wigwam

    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
    Poor performance in this thread. We should sign that green new deal, it feels good.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Look at all the initial reports on this Columbus, Ohio shooting, look at the response Rat politicians. And you wonder why a large number of blacks lack confidence in the police? People flat out lied and excused knife fighting in order to trash the cop who saved a black person's life.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    It's a mystery why blacks don't have confidence in the police.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited April 2021
    Her claims are total fucking lies but you see them repeated parrot like all over. But, but why do blacks lack confidence in the police?



  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    Yeah but they shot way more white guys. How can that be! Brainwashed assholes out there.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    This guy ambushed two cops and shot them while they sat in their vehicle, yet someone when he was arrested he wasn't shot on sight.

    https://www.canyon-news.com/suspect-wanted-for-attempted-murder-of-compton-police-charged/133921

    But black folks are routinely told that white criminals aren't ever killed and black suspects are killed.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.

    Translation: My feelings trump your facts.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,411 Founders Club
    edited April 2021
    I brought up actual stats to a leftist faggot a few years ago.

    His response was blathering on about isolated incident involving only blacks. I guess whites, Indians, Asians, and Latinxxxxxxxx don't count. Has anyone heard of Tony Timpa? Yeah, probably not, he was white. It's against the narrative.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,815

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Black people don't trust the system because their leaders have lied to them for 50 years for political gain... but you love those leaders.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    A lot of people, myself included, think Chauvin only highlights the problem.



    That’s the original report. The only reason there was justice was public pressure. They were plenty happy to sweep it under the rug. The fact that mass protests and political pressure were needed in order to even get a trial for a cop that murdered someone on video does not instill trust.
    And as I have said on numerous occasions, root out corruption in the police ... that’s a priority

    But you can’t in the interim while that’s happening not be accountable for your own actions and effectively take the approach that you’re not accountable to the law

    For as much as we need police reform, we also need reform in our society being accountable to the law
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Goduckies said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Black people don't trust the system because their leaders have lied to them for 50 years for political gain... but you love those leaders.
    Hell he is one of the people who gladly pushes the lies. Black out of wedlock birth rates are due to systemic white racism.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937

    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.

    Fixing the problem requires all sides working to a solution

    Do you actually think either side truly is interested in a solution right now?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Tequilla said:

    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.

    Fixing the problem requires all sides working to a solution

    Do you actually think either side truly is interested in a solution right now?
    Don't do that. This isn't a both sides are to blame issue. What are conservatives supposedly not willing to do? Which side filibustered a police reform bill this past year?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    Having been in law enforcement for a long time this root out corruption stuff is funny. At least on the west coast.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,815
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    Stop speaking truths
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club
    Here at the Tug agreement could be found on police reform. Damone and Kobe are two sides of the same coin but Kobe insists on bashing people over race.

    If you want a real national discussion include every police shooting and maybe focus on victims that are actual victims


    Police enjoy the benefit of the doubt from most of the public because most of us wouldn't want to be a cop. But it's not a blind support for most.

  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,411 Founders Club
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.

    Fixing the problem requires all sides working to a solution

    Do you actually think either side truly is interested in a solution right now?
    Don't do that. This isn't a both sides are to blame issue. What are conservatives supposedly not willing to do? Which side filibustered a police reform bill this past year?
    Both sides here isn’t left/right

    This is police reform vs society actually following the law
  • BangaRangBangaRang Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2021
    My God Kobe, please tell me you're fucking with this board.

    Blacks' feelings??

    I "Feel" that blacks have no ability to comply with police when they are justifiably confronted or arrested. They have earned this mistrust.

    But I really really squint my eyes so hard and hope for peace and love
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