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Police mass murders

SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter

2020 Police Officer use of deadly force:
- Police officers killed 1,021 suspects
- Police Officers killed 55 unarmed suspects
- 45 officers were killed in shootings
- There are slightly under 700,000 police officers in the United States
- in 2018 (latest numbers published), 65.1 million people had at least one contact (excluding people who have multiple contacts) with a law enforcement officers
- In 2020, people had roughly 350 million contacts with law enforcement of which 55 unarmed people were killed by police officers
- 0.053% of the unarmed suspects killed by police officers by percentage is less than .05/100th of all suspects are killed by police.
- 0.00000084% of the 65.1 million of those who had a single contact with law enforcement who were unarmed were killed by the police officer.
- unarmed suspects are a 1 in 6,363,363 people are killed by a police officer
- in the first 3 months of 2021, police officers killed 15 Caucasian (white) suspects and 5 black suspects.
- white males are killed by the police at a 3 times more rate over black males.
- of the unarmed 55 suspects killed by police, it does not include what the suspects were doing when killed by the police. (Pointing a fake handgun at an officer is considered an unarmed suspect)
Every life matters, however when you look at the actual numbers available by the DOJ it tells a different story. It is statistically nearly 0% chance of being killed by the police.
The numbers matter and show the real scope of the issue. Let’s start there when we are talking about reforming law enforcement or defunding the police. I copied and pasted, you should be able to copy mine and past in your email.

Big if true.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited April 2021

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.


    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Fuck off with you and your pathetic strawman ass fucks with each and everyone of your posts. No one has abandoned all skepticism of authority. You can't name a single person who has, but you ass rape that fucking strawman because you're dumb as dogshit and you don't have the ability to address what people have actually said and what they really think.

    Fuck off.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Right wingers are mask and science deniers and super spreaders because they won't listen to authority but have abandoned all skepticism of authority

    You said it far better than me.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Yeah, it can't be that anyone on the left intentionally fuels mistrust of the police.



  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited April 2021

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    You show no faith in Black persons. Do you even see them? Honest, question, Kobe.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,868 Swaye's Wigwam

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    The problem is how people feel about it, not the statistics. Thanks for confirming. It’s about progress though right?

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter
    Feelings. Nothing more than Feelings.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,740 Standard Supporter
    screw KBS, I am waiting for LBJ II to make a non-presidential tweet about all this
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited April 2021
    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
    And liberals like Kobe will be blaming white racism when it happens.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,653 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
    And liberals like Kobe will be blaming white racism when it happens.
    Ted Wheeler has a modicum of brains and some common sense but as a typical "moderate" leftard he can't say no and felt that let it burn for a bit would make it go away. Watching him now he looks totally defeated as he realizes that Portland is dying and now there is nothing that can be done. His life is just a self-induced misery. Ted is hated by the left, the center and the right. Reagan and Trump could say no and not care that the people who hated them just hated them more. Ted thought that appeasement was an option. Like Cuomo watching his big taxpayers fleeing New York, Ted deserves all the misery that can get heaped on him. Imagine trying to get a meeting with a major business trying to leave Portland and begging them to stay? He is just a pathetic little phuck now and he knows it.
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858
    I think "the talk" needs to change.

    Data shows that cops will not kill you. Don't resist arrest as this high increase the tension in the situation, and split second decisions will be made.
    Be clam and listen to the police.

    If you are arrested, do not resist.

    Trust the police.


    There needs to be smart and respected leaders in the community that leads this communication.


  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    A lot of people, myself included, think Chauvin only highlights the problem.



    That’s the original report. The only reason there was justice was public pressure. They were plenty happy to sweep it under the rug. The fact that mass protests and political pressure were needed in order to even get a trial for a cop that murdered someone on video does not instill trust.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited April 2021

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    A lot of people, myself included, think Chauvin only highlights the problem.



    That’s the original report. The only reason there was justice was public pressure. They were plenty happy to sweep it under the rug. The fact that mass protests and political pressure were needed in order to even get a trial for a cop that murdered someone on video does not instill trust.
    He was arrested the day after the video was released fuck off. Most all of the rioting and looting happened after he'd been arrested.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
    Blacks are also more likely to believe in ghosts. Must be true. What impact on their confidence in the Police has to do with the non-stop string of lies leftists feed them Kobe?

    Polling shows that blacks also believe that there are thousand of unarmed black people who are killed by the police each year. Does it make it true? Now why would they believe a number so unhinged from reality?
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