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Sledog
Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter

2020 Police Officer use of deadly force:
- Police officers killed 1,021 suspects
- Police Officers killed 55 unarmed suspects
- 45 officers were killed in shootings
- There are slightly under 700,000 police officers in the United States
- in 2018 (latest numbers published), 65.1 million people had at least one contact (excluding people who have multiple contacts) with a law enforcement officers
- In 2020, people had roughly 350 million contacts with law enforcement of which 55 unarmed people were killed by police officers
- 0.053% of the unarmed suspects killed by police officers by percentage is less than .05/100th of all suspects are killed by police.
- 0.00000084% of the 65.1 million of those who had a single contact with law enforcement who were unarmed were killed by the police officer.
- unarmed suspects are a 1 in 6,363,363 people are killed by a police officer
- in the first 3 months of 2021, police officers killed 15 Caucasian (white) suspects and 5 black suspects.
- white males are killed by the police at a 3 times more rate over black males.
- of the unarmed 55 suspects killed by police, it does not include what the suspects were doing when killed by the police. (Pointing a fake handgun at an officer is considered an unarmed suspect)
Every life matters, however when you look at the actual numbers available by the DOJ it tells a different story. It is statistically nearly 0% chance of being killed by the police.
The numbers matter and show the real scope of the issue. Let’s start there when we are talking about reforming law enforcement or defunding the police. I copied and pasted, you should be able to copy mine and past in your email.

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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited April 2021

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.


    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Fuck off with you and your pathetic strawman ass fucks with each and everyone of your posts. No one has abandoned all skepticism of authority. You can't name a single person who has, but you ass rape that fucking strawman because you're dumb as dogshit and you don't have the ability to address what people have actually said and what they really think.

    Fuck off.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Right wingers are mask and science deniers and super spreaders because they won't listen to authority but have abandoned all skepticism of authority

    You said it far better than me.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Yeah, it can't be that anyone on the left intentionally fuels mistrust of the police.



  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited April 2021

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    You show no faith in Black persons. Do you even see them? Honest, question, Kobe.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,651 Founders Club

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    The problem is how people feel about it, not the statistics. Thanks for confirming. It’s about progress though right?

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter
    Feelings. Nothing more than Feelings.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    screw KBS, I am waiting for LBJ II to make a non-presidential tweet about all this
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited April 2021
    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
    And liberals like Kobe will be blaming white racism when it happens.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    How about an honest accounting from the black community of just how much fucking crime is committed by the black community and why that might have some impact on the amount of police presence and police contact blacks have with the police?

    Kobe what is your and the left's role in all of this when you give people the excuse of systemic white racism in order to explain their criminal behavior? What role does that play in black assumptions?

    And from barry to almost every dem politician that supported BLM that resulted in cops being ambushed and killed in response to the Lebron James meme that white cops were hunting down innocent blacks and slaughtering them for fun. What you are going to have left in big city police departments are woke cops just cashing their government checks and letting Thunder Dome rampage the city.
    And liberals like Kobe will be blaming white racism when it happens.
    Ted Wheeler has a modicum of brains and some common sense but as a typical "moderate" leftard he can't say no and felt that let it burn for a bit would make it go away. Watching him now he looks totally defeated as he realizes that Portland is dying and now there is nothing that can be done. His life is just a self-induced misery. Ted is hated by the left, the center and the right. Reagan and Trump could say no and not care that the people who hated them just hated them more. Ted thought that appeasement was an option. Like Cuomo watching his big taxpayers fleeing New York, Ted deserves all the misery that can get heaped on him. Imagine trying to get a meeting with a major business trying to leave Portland and begging them to stay? He is just a pathetic little phuck now and he knows it.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,862
    I think "the talk" needs to change.

    Data shows that cops will not kill you. Don't resist arrest as this high increase the tension in the situation, and split second decisions will be made.
    Be clam and listen to the police.

    If you are arrested, do not resist.

    Trust the police.


    There needs to be smart and respected leaders in the community that leads this communication.


  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    A lot of people, myself included, think Chauvin only highlights the problem.



    That’s the original report. The only reason there was justice was public pressure. They were plenty happy to sweep it under the rug. The fact that mass protests and political pressure were needed in order to even get a trial for a cop that murdered someone on video does not instill trust.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited April 2021

    Tequilla said:

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Sorry ... I don’t consider this good enough

    I understand perceptions are realities ... so I get the skepticism and understand that doesn’t change overnight

    The Chauvin verdict should help in the narrative that bad policing isn’t held accountable

    But the other side of the coin is that the data and stats aren’t presenting the reality as much as the exception

    We have one of the most visible people in the world go after a cop that saved a life and potentially additional lives ... that’s incredibly irresponsible

    As I’ve said elsewhere, not only do we need greater accountability out of policing, but we need greater accountability from the public. Until that happens, we’re in a perpetual state of things being fucked
    A lot of people, myself included, think Chauvin only highlights the problem.



    That’s the original report. The only reason there was justice was public pressure. They were plenty happy to sweep it under the rug. The fact that mass protests and political pressure were needed in order to even get a trial for a cop that murdered someone on video does not instill trust.
    He was arrested the day after the video was released fuck off. Most all of the rioting and looting happened after he'd been arrested.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
    Blacks are also more likely to believe in ghosts. Must be true. What impact on their confidence in the Police has to do with the non-stop string of lies leftists feed them Kobe?

    Polling shows that blacks also believe that there are thousand of unarmed black people who are killed by the police each year. Does it make it true? Now why would they believe a number so unhinged from reality?
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,651 Founders Club

    doogie said:

    It was a simple honest question, @TheKobeStopper

    Yes.

    19% of Black participants said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police. 56% of White participants said the same.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/12/us/american-confidence-in-policing-new-low-trnd/index.html

    Do you hear them?
    Poor performance in this thread. We should sign that green new deal, it feels good.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Look at all the initial reports on this Columbus, Ohio shooting, look at the response Rat politicians. And you wonder why a large number of blacks lack confidence in the police? People flat out lied and excused knife fighting in order to trash the cop who saved a black person's life.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    It's a mystery why blacks don't have confidence in the police.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited April 2021
    Her claims are total fucking lies but you see them repeated parrot like all over. But, but why do blacks lack confidence in the police?



  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter
    Yeah but they shot way more white guys. How can that be! Brainwashed assholes out there.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    This guy ambushed two cops and shot them while they sat in their vehicle, yet someone when he was arrested he wasn't shot on sight.

    https://www.canyon-news.com/suspect-wanted-for-attempted-murder-of-compton-police-charged/133921

    But black folks are routinely told that white criminals aren't ever killed and black suspects are killed.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Like I said, people don’t trust police when it comes to black lives. You can blame them if you like but I view that mistrust as earned. Too many dead bodies, too many cases swept under the rug. I’m trying my best to view every incident without bias but I can’t fault people for their reactions.

    Translation: My feelings trump your facts.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,605 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021
    I brought up actual stats to a leftist faggot a few years ago.

    His response was blathering on about isolated incident involving only blacks. I guess whites, Indians, Asians, and Latinxxxxxxxx don't count. Has anyone heard of Tony Timpa? Yeah, probably not, he was white. It's against the narrative.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter

    The exact numbers aren’t the problem. The problem is black people don’t trust the system. When a black person gets shot, they don’t trust that the cop was just and when it’s not just, they know they can’t trust the system to provide justice. This distrust is earned.

    There’s also the problem of right wingers who have abandoned all skepticism of authority, unless it’s a democrat. You guys assume the cop must have been in the right. Black people assume the cop must have been wrong.

    There’s a tight rope of skepticism of authority but trust in our institutions that must be walked and we have completely fallen off.

    Black people don't trust the system because their leaders have lied to them for 50 years for political gain... but you love those leaders.