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I think they have similar arm strength. The perception about Huard comes from people seeing too many lobs in his highlights. If they stop fixating on that and keep their eyes open there are plenty of examples of him throwing the ball hard. He does it easily too, with the same motion he uses on every pass he throws. He throws a lot like uncle Brock, to be honest. You can always see he's using about 60%, maybe 75% at absolute most, of what he has in the tank.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq? -
Eason for all his physical traits lacked significant consistency ... let’s call it like it is
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Oh so THAT'S what it was. I never could quite put my finger on it.Tequilla said:Eason for all his physical traits lacked significant consistency ... let’s call it like it is
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Is that Dave "Softy" Mahler? Of the Kent Mahlers?
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Right, I think he has considerably more arm strength than Morris.chuck said:
I think they have similar arm strength. The perception about Huard comes from people seeing too many lobs in his highlights. If they stop fixating on that and keep their eyes open there are plenty of examples of him throwing the ball hard. He does it easily too, with the same motion he uses on every pass he throws. He throws a lot like uncle Brock, to be honest. You can always see he's using about 60%, maybe 75% at absolute most, of what he has in the tank.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq? -
Its an Iron Law that we can only compare current Husky QBs to previous Husky QBs and current Husky coaches to past Husky coaches.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq? -
What Tui had in abundance is what most QBs lack: real ballz. Not fast, not a huge arm, not a great dissector of coverages. Just showed up and led his team to wins.Baseman said:
He played faster than he wasDerekJohnson said:Tui didn't have a cannon for an arm, by the way.
If he had a particular talent, it was his vision and sense of timing in the option game. He ran that better than people who are faster and overall greater running threats than he was.
Tui just had "it", which is the main thing you want.
QB has been, for me at least, the hardest one to predict from HS to P5. So, so, so many great ones in HS could not put it together in college. I remember watching Jake Heaps in several games at Skyline. Kid would make every throw. He looked a little short, but not enough to make you wonder if he could handle Division 1 P5 defenses in light of what he showed in HS. The kid was GOOD, and that's coming from a Bothell guy who isn't really a fan of the Skyline program, and he failed miserably at the college level.
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I dont know. Morris has a live arm. It's a non issue for either of them.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Right, I think he has considerably more arm strength than Morris.chuck said:
I think they have similar arm strength. The perception about Huard comes from people seeing too many lobs in his highlights. If they stop fixating on that and keep their eyes open there are plenty of examples of him throwing the ball hard. He does it easily too, with the same motion he uses on every pass he throws. He throws a lot like uncle Brock, to be honest. You can always see he's using about 60%, maybe 75% at absolute most, of what he has in the tank.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq? -
No commentchuck said:
I dont know. Morris has a live arm. It's a non issue for either of them.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Right, I think he has considerably more arm strength than Morris.chuck said:
I think they have similar arm strength. The perception about Huard comes from people seeing too many lobs in his highlights. If they stop fixating on that and keep their eyes open there are plenty of examples of him throwing the ball hard. He does it easily too, with the same motion he uses on every pass he throws. He throws a lot like uncle Brock, to be honest. You can always see he's using about 60%, maybe 75% at absolute most, of what he has in the tank.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq? -
They have plenty of arm strength. Or at least enough. A cannon means nothing if they aren’t accurate and don’t have the mental part down. Read coverages, make quick decisions, move around in the pocket, don’t turn it over.chuck said:
I dont know. Morris has a live arm. It's a non issue for either of them.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Right, I think he has considerably more arm strength than Morris.chuck said:
I think they have similar arm strength. The perception about Huard comes from people seeing too many lobs in his highlights. If they stop fixating on that and keep their eyes open there are plenty of examples of him throwing the ball hard. He does it easily too, with the same motion he uses on every pass he throws. He throws a lot like uncle Brock, to be honest. You can always see he's using about 60%, maybe 75% at absolute most, of what he has in the tank.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I don't think any of the comps are that useful. And I sure as fuck don't agree with any of your breakdown of Huard's game. If you think he has less arm than Morris then we're just at an impasse. Can't really argue with someone who sees blue when you look at red.1to392831weretaken said:
You have three quarterbacks:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. Eason to Huard would be a better comp then. So would Lindquist if you really want to stretch it. But the Huard-Browning comp ends the second you roll the tape.Baseman said:
I've seen lots of Sam. Live. In HS and 7 v. 7. Anyone who doesn't think Alexander, Tinae, Troy Franklin, J. Johnson and Egbuka don't play a major role in the hype are fooling themselves. HS football is littered with limp arm QBs. Only one amassed 229 passing TDs. 91 in his senior year. 4 year starter at Washington. Broke all the all time records. This bored hated him. You've bought the hype if you can't see the comparison. Arm: Skinny>Sam>Browning. Jeff Lindquist and Jack Locker could rip it.GreenRiverGatorz said:Anyone comparing Huard to Browning hasn't watched a single throw of his. The bust outcome is always an option, but as a prospect his arm is nothing like Browning's. Some might even say night and day.
Husky nation has Savior Sam delivering them back to Pasadena. More than a few have UW back in the semis. Twice if he doesn't leave early. Hype.
I like Sam. His dad is a swell guy (he is). Sam is a maybe until he isn't.
1.) 6'3", 180 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 40 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement instead of velocity, about 50 yard range as the crow flies.
2.) 6'2", 175 lb. pocket passer with good agility and escapability in the pocket. Insanely accurate up to 45 yards downfield, touch passer, uses placement and arc over velocity, between 55 and 60 yard range as the crow flies.
3.) 6'6", 220 lb. pocket passer who's an absolute statue. Canon for an arm. Throws with one speed and that speed is "yes." Somewhat accurate, decreasingly so downfield, unless throwing a 50 yard rope. Infinity yard range as the crow flies.
One of these things is not like the other. Huard's game/feet/frame are way more similar to Browning's than Eason's. He is Browning out of high school with a stronger arm. He is Morris with a bit less arm and more accuracy. Eason? He's nothing like Eason. And Lindquist? Dafuq?
I’m not saying anything that people don’t know. Arm strength is merely a luxury. We all prefer a rocket armed QB if all things are equal. We also would prefer a 1,000 yard rusher.
Both of these guys have the potential to be really good. Morris had some struggles, but he also threw some ropes, and showed some heart and resilience. Huard is a great prospect that is advanced mentally for the position and he has a lot of room to grow.
