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Kristi really, really doesn't want to be President

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,931
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    You know who is picking a fight? Trannies and the NCAA. You either concede or fight back. Fighting back isn't picking a fight. Geezuz.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    You know who is picking a fight? Trannies and the NCAA. You either concede or fight back. Fighting back isn't picking a fight. Geezuz.

    Either fight and lead or get out of the way.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Heaven forbid someone consulting noted experts and leveraging their expertise
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    edited March 2021
    Tequilla said:

    Heaven forbid someone consulting noted experts and leveraging their expertise

    Yes, yes the "experts" she refuses to name. Given her response here, I'll bet her "experts" are the same Republican campaign consultants who have been giving us winners like McCain and Romney and the two stiffs that were running for Senate in Georgia. She fucked up here, instead of coming clean and admitting it she is now dumping on Conservatives.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,066
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    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    Heaven forbid someone consulting noted experts and leveraging their expertise

    Yes, yes the "experts" she refuses to name. Given her response here, I'll bet her "experts" are the same Republican campaign consultants who have been giving us winners like McCain and Romney and the two stiffs that were running for Senate in Georgia. She fucked up here, instead of coming clean and admitting it she is now dumping on Conservatives.
    Given her track record she deserves some benefit of the doubt before fully judging. Do we know the tweaks she wants made to the bill? It's a mistake to automatically assume she's cowering from a fight.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    So having your legal team tell you that the bill as written will likely not stand up in court, put your colleges and universities in an untenable position with the NCAA, etc ... clearly the course of action is to tell your legal team to FUCK OFF and go forward guns blazing

    Instead it sounds like she leveraged her legal experts to maintain as much of what was passed as possible where the revised bill can stand on its own and withstand legal challenges

    Those actions (regardless of the nature of the bill) actually sounds like leadership to me
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    Heaven forbid someone consulting noted experts and leveraging their expertise

    Yes, yes the "experts" she refuses to name. Given her response here, I'll bet her "experts" are the same Republican campaign consultants who have been giving us winners like McCain and Romney and the two stiffs that were running for Senate in Georgia. She fucked up here, instead of coming clean and admitting it she is now dumping on Conservatives.
    Given her track record she deserves some benefit of the doubt before fully judging. Do we know the tweaks she wants made to the bill? It's a mistake to automatically assume she's cowering from a fight.
    She had plenty of opportunity to have changes made to the Bill before it hit her desk. She originally said that she supported it and would sign it, only after these un-named "experts/lobbyists" spoke to her did she start opposing this bill. The same Bill that Noem now says she can't sign because of a fear of lawsuits has already been signed into law in Idaho and Mississippi.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    Tequilla said:

    So having your legal team tell you that the bill as written will likely not stand up in court, put your colleges and universities in an untenable position with the NCAA, etc ... clearly the course of action is to tell your legal team to FUCK OFF and go forward guns blazing

    Instead it sounds like she leveraged her legal experts to maintain as much of what was passed as possible where the revised bill can stand on its own and withstand legal challenges

    Those actions (regardless of the nature of the bill) actually sounds like leadership to me

    Thanks for the input Mitt

    Listening to your ilk should wrap up 22 and 24 for the dems
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,066
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tequilla said:

    Heaven forbid someone consulting noted experts and leveraging their expertise

    Yes, yes the "experts" she refuses to name. Given her response here, I'll bet her "experts" are the same Republican campaign consultants who have been giving us winners like McCain and Romney and the two stiffs that were running for Senate in Georgia. She fucked up here, instead of coming clean and admitting it she is now dumping on Conservatives.
    Given her track record she deserves some benefit of the doubt before fully judging. Do we know the tweaks she wants made to the bill? It's a mistake to automatically assume she's cowering from a fight.
    She had plenty of opportunity to have changes made to the Bill before it hit her desk. She originally said that she supported it and would sign it, only after these un-named "experts/lobbyists" spoke to her did she start opposing this bill. The same Bill that Noem now says she can't sign because of a fear of lawsuits has already been signed into law in Idaho and Mississippi.

    If what you're saying here is true then I would agree.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    Don't talk shit about #mynoem
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    The GOP rank and file voter is in no mood to take someone at their word that they are a Conservative and that they promise to fight the cultural war. They've been burned too many times by frauds, this is a self-inflicted wound on Noem's part and like most RINOs when they start getting push back they insult the voters.
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,945
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    If she can’t stand up to Emmert than it’s over.

    I like Ron in this one.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    To review she gains nothing from the left that will paint her as a transphobic covid murderer regardless. She loses a chunk of the base for being weak

    And this is her reward for punting on a slam dunk issue

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    Regular board reader that Harv
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    Bob_C said:

    If she can’t stand up to Emmert than it’s over.

    I like Ron in this one.

    Good point. 2 inches of thunder
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    Having a brain only hurts your chances with today’s “gop”.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    SFGbob said:
    Her attempts to pretend that she resisted “tremendous pressure from corporate bigwigs and the radical left alike to veto the bill” continue to fall short as more evidence that her inner circle, including her chief of staff Tony Venhuizen, a lawyer who also sits on the board of the Sioux Falls Chamber of Commerce and Matt McCaulley, a lawyer and lobbyist whose “clients include Sanford Health, which owns Sanford Sports Complex, a Sioux Falls arena that hopes to lure NCAA tourneys” heavily influenced her decision to abandon this culture war fight.

    Follow the 💰
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Having a brain only hurts your chances with today’s “gop”.

    So you're telling us you'd have zero chance with the GOP.
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