Our Seattle home topped out at 525 K in 2004. Bought it for 90
Sold in 2011 or 348K
Paper is paper. It is worth what someone will pay when you want or need to sell
Right now it is positive. Supply is low and people want to flee to the burbs or another state
But you really can't ignore what is out there. People thought it was insane to short the "good" mortgage securities in 07 until it made billionaires out of the guys that did
I'm not rooting for a collapse just learning from history
I think we're in some sort of a bubble nationally. And the potential for foreclosures data is very much concerning.
I placed my bet, personally, on more and more people having some sort of virtual hustle and PDX, SEA, SFO, LAX, etc. continuing to suck ass. My market took a 50% haircut in 2008. One of the worst in the US. Could it happen like that again? Sure, anything is possible. More likely I think is 10% to 20% if things got really bad with the US economy as a whole.
The major markets are going to get whacked. Might be a good tim to pick something up on the cheap before the occupied Chinese state takes over and the new overlords seek housing (Hi OBK).
The second tier cities (in the NW, Spokane/CDA, Bend, Missoula, Tri Cities, a little bit of Boise - though that's getting played out) are blowing up. If you can swing a hammer or do anything related to home construction, you'll have as much work as you'd like. It's essentially name your price if you want to see your home.
Pray for Yella. This kitchen remodel will probably lead to divorce.
At last, that blonde Amazonian goddess will be MINE!
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
I don’t know. My 1927 Seattle house was a piece of shit. My 2003 Wakanda house probably is too. At least I live in a desert and there’s only so much water can do to fuck me.
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
I don’t know. My 1927 Seattle house was a piece of shit. My 2003 Wakanda house probably is too. At least I live in a desert and there’s only so much water can do to fuck me.
The Jif that keeps giving. Buy in New Mexico. That dry climate is good for houses.
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
I don’t know. My 1927 Seattle house was a piece of shit. My 2003 Wakanda house probably is too. At least I live in a desert and there’s only so much water can do to fuck me.
The Jif that keeps giving. Buy in New Mexico. That dry climate is good for houses.
I have an overall plan of which I will tell you privately sometime in the coming weeks
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
I don’t know. My 1927 Seattle house was a piece of shit. My 2003 Wakanda house probably is too. At least I live in a desert and there’s only so much water can do to fuck me.
The Jif that keeps giving. Buy in New Mexico. That dry climate is good for houses.
I have an overall plan of which I will tell you privately sometime in the coming weeks
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
True Story: Former Cali GC neighbor of mine didn't know how to splice Romex into Knob & Tube.
He informed me of this after disconnecting every wiring nut in the junction box. Took me about 2 hours to reconnect it all and splice into the proper wires.
He later built a wall for me without laying out any dimensions, and when it was done, he said, "Okay. Ready to Rock!"
I tore the whole fucking wall down and rebuilt it after he left. Could not believe the shit quality that hack thought was great.
We rent a 2007 California special. The worst construction ever
Folks that were here back in the early oughts say the sound of nail guns echoed throughout the valley
I don’t know. My 1927 Seattle house was a piece of shit. My 2003 Wakanda house probably is too. At least I live in a desert and there’s only so much water can do to fuck me.
The Jif that keeps giving. Buy in New Mexico. That dry climate is good for houses.
Doesn’t it make better financial sense to wait for rates to rise and pay Much a lower price on the house so you can take advantage of the refi market down the road when rates fall into negative territory?
"Doesn’t it make better financial sense to wait for rates to rise and pay Much a lower price on the house so you can take advantage of the refi market down the road when rates fall into negative territory?"
In Hawaii prices will not dip to your target point. I assume it is the same in a few other places. Seattle comes to mind, as well.
The tequilla version is provided below:
Oahu is different because it is an island. You can't move to the suburbs and buy cheaper. Well you can, but it is still not cheap enough.
Acreage is naturally scarce and there are way too many artificial limits on development.
Prices occasionally drop but not far and not often. (yes, I've been underwater at one point on all but one of my properties). The cash purchase was never underwater. Go figure.
The big dip that you are waiting for occurred twenty years ago (or twenty years before that) - likely never to be seen again.
A lot of creepy rich people have vacation/second homes here which props up prices in what should be down times.
Makes sense to leverage to the hilt when you have a down payment and buy as much as you can and rent them out to the pours who will eventually move (back) to the mainland because of the cost of living. (you can't ignore the ESPPs or IRAs or 401ks but, do invest the leftovers and bonuses in real estate.)
Its a good plan until, ya know, a pandemic hits. And renters can't be evicted.
If my house drops by 20% the houses in Texas probably drop by 40%. Granted, that wipes out a large chunk of my equity, but I will take the much cheaper housing in another state as a consolation prize. Local realtors I know here still say no correction until 2023 or 2024.
Doesn’t it make better financial sense to wait for rates to rise and pay Much a lower price on the house so you can take advantage of the refi market down the road when rates fall into negative territory?
I have been telling myself this very thing lately. It helps me justify my procrastination.
If my house drops by 20% the houses in Texas probably drop by 40%. Granted, that wipes out a large chunk of my equity, but I will take the much cheaper housing in another state as a consolation prize. Local realtors I know here still say no correction until 2023 or 2024.
"Doesn’t it make better financial sense to wait for rates to rise and pay Much a lower price on the house so you can take advantage of the refi market down the road when rates fall into negative territory?"
In Hawaii prices will not dip to your target point. I assume it is the same in a few other places. Seattle comes to mind, as well.
The tequilla version is provided below:
Oahu is different because it is an island. You can't move to the suburbs and buy cheaper. Well you can, but it is still not cheap enough.
Acreage is naturally scarce and there are way too many artificial limits on development.
Prices occasionally drop but not far and not often. (yes, I've been underwater at one point on all but one of my properties). The cash purchase was never underwater. Go figure.
The big dip that you are waiting for occurred twenty years ago (or twenty years before that) - likely never to be seen again.
A lot of creepy rich people have vacation/second homes here which props up prices in what should be down times.
Makes sense to leverage to the hilt when you have a down payment and buy as much as you can and rent them out to the pours who will eventually move (back) to the mainland because of the cost of living. (you can't ignore the ESPPs or IRAs or 401ks but, do invest the leftovers and bonuses in real estate.)
Its a good plan until, ya know, a pandemic hits. And renters can't be evicted.
Might be time to sell or at least consider it.
As you age equity seems to magically appear.
True. Island are different. Go look at home prices in Key West before the recession, after the recession, and now. They never really went down. They just leveled off in 2008 for a bit, then started climbing again.
If my house drops by 20% the houses in Texas probably drop by 40%. Granted, that wipes out a large chunk of my equity, but I will take the much cheaper housing in another state as a consolation prize. Local realtors I know here still say no correction until 2023 or 2024.
Huh? Texas has a ton of land and cheap labor...because of that prices here have gone up but not to the extreme of the coasts. No clue how they could fall 40%*
*Some exclusive areas like Rice Village and River Oaks in Houston being the exception...
The American, or the Banana Republican, consumer makes purchase decisions almost entirely based on the "payments" mentality. How long it will take to pay it off, if ever, is not how most people go about it making a buy decision.
So I agree with you but would expect them to drop not just when borrowing tightens up; but when it gets more expensive and people can't choke down the monthly.
The American, or the Banana Republican, consumer makes purchase decisions almost entirely based on the "payments" mentality. How long it will take to pay it off, if ever, is not how most people go about it making a buy decision.
So I agree with you but would expect them to drop not just when borrowing tightens up; but when it gets more expensive and people can't choke down the monthly.
Don’t forget all the easy credit currently available to all the Pretend real estate Investors out there as well as the warehouse credit lines to the Mortgage companies.
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At last, that blonde Amazonian goddess will be MINE!
He informed me of this after disconnecting every wiring nut in the junction box. Took me about 2 hours to reconnect it all and splice into the proper wires.
He later built a wall for me without laying out any dimensions, and when it was done, he said, "Okay. Ready to Rock!"
I tore the whole fucking wall down and rebuilt it after he left. Could not believe the shit quality that hack thought was great.
New Mexico? Pass.
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/single-family-home-listings-reach-record-low-on-oahu/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR3tUMmxRlVmxle7GsswKkh8M0OO4KgJ_-UnbyvRs1huYdre9u42tbYML70
In Hawaii prices will not dip to your target point. I assume it is the same in a few other places. Seattle comes to mind, as well.
The tequilla version is provided below:
Oahu is different because it is an island. You can't move to the suburbs and buy cheaper. Well you can, but it is still not cheap enough.
Acreage is naturally scarce and there are way too many artificial limits on development.
Prices occasionally drop but not far and not often. (yes, I've been underwater at one point on all but one of my properties). The cash purchase was never underwater. Go figure.
The big dip that you are waiting for occurred twenty years ago (or twenty years before that) - likely never to be seen again.
A lot of creepy rich people have vacation/second homes here which props up prices in what should be down times.
Makes sense to leverage to the hilt when you have a down payment and buy as much as you can and rent them out to the pours who will eventually move (back) to the mainland because of the cost of living. (you can't ignore the ESPPs or IRAs or 401ks but, do invest the leftovers and bonuses in real estate.)
Its a good plan until, ya know, a pandemic hits. And renters can't be evicted.
Might be time to sell or at least consider it.
As you age equity seems to magically appear.
and there are way too many artificial limits on development... stood out
*Some exclusive areas like Rice Village and River Oaks in Houston being the exception...
So I agree with you but would expect them to drop not just when borrowing tightens up; but when it gets more expensive and people can't choke down the monthly.
We are executing on the dream of Collectivism. Where everyone is equal and work is pleasant, simple and fulfilling.
And with any luck, I'll be feeding worms and avoiding the entire shit-show before it explodes and melts down into a sea of dead dreams and bodies.
So I agree with you but would expect them to drop not just when borrowing tightens up; but when it gets more expensive and people can't choke down the monthly.
Don’t forget all the easy credit currently available to all the Pretend real estate Investors out there as well as the warehouse credit lines to the Mortgage companies.