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So we have 1/5 of China Cold deaths
Fire_Marshall_Bill
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And maybe 4.5 percent of the world's population. That makes no sense. Want to weigh in corona bros?
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And no difference in overall excess death in 2020
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Get the rhythm.
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I went looking for those numbers yesterday and there's a lot of BS out there on the facts. The mask pushers were mortified to learn in the late summer of '20 that the total death count in the US was trending to be less than '17, '18 and '19. They then hired "scientists" (most likely using UW statisticians) to come up with their own predictions which put the numbers into the 3.1 to 3.6mm death range. 17, 18 and '19 were all in the 2.8mm range but cmon man Covid killed almost 500K people so surely 2020 would have about 3.2mm deaths right? Well, the most up to date numbers from the government I could find had the total death count as of 11/25/20 at 2.6mm. So unless another 600k people died in December, it looks like the total death count will be roughly what it was in the previous 3 years. If this turns out to be true, (and does anyone believe our government will publish accurate and real numbers anytime soon) COVID-19 will turn out to be the scam many of us believe it is and was.LoneStarDawg said:And no difference in overall excess death in 2020
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I think it ended up at 3.1, but that was smack dab on the trend tracking population growth and age. YoY growth was like 4% the last 5 years.RoadTrip said:
I went looking for those numbers yesterday and there's a lot of BS out there on the facts. The mask pushers were mortified to learn in the late summer of '20 that the total death count in the US was trending to be less than '17, '18 and '19. They then hired "scientists" (most likely using UW statisticians) to come up with their own predictions which put the numbers into the 3.1 to 3.6mm death range. 17, 18 and '19 were all in the 2.8mm range but cmon man Covid killed almost 500K people so surely 2020 would have about 3.2mm deaths right? Well, the most up to date numbers from the government I could find had the total death count as of 11/25/20 at 2.6mm. So unless another 600k people died in December, it looks like the total death count will be roughly what it was in the previous 3 years. If this turns out to be true, (and does anyone believe our government will publish accurate and real numbers anytime soon) COVID-19 will turn out to be the scam many of us believe it is and was.LoneStarDawg said:And no difference in overall excess death in 2020
There was a quick news cycle that “most annual deaths in US history” that got shit on because it’s been “most deaths” every year for the last decade due to those factors stated above.
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Whenever you strip fields out of the data, you are going to get results that don’t make sense and don’t tell you anything and make comparability impossible. Binary reporting of case data and no viral load statistics was the biggest mistake that was made. The pcr tests have that information, they didn’t want it.
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People this smart don’t “make mistakes”Bob_C said:Whenever you strip fields out of the data, you are going to get results that don’t make sense and don’t tell you anything and make comparability impossible. Binary reporting of case data and no viral load statistics was the biggest mistake that was made. The pcr tests have that information, they didn’t want it.
Why every statistical measurement was poorly chosen is a question we shouldn’t let up on as a society. -
Trump cured Pneumonia and Cancer.
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Perhaps. Though Id lean towards laziness and incompetence in this case. Someone made an early call that was a bad move and no one wanted to restate or change course, maybe for the reasons you said.LoneStarDawg said:
People this smart don’t “make mistakes”Bob_C said:Whenever you strip fields out of the data, you are going to get results that don’t make sense and don’t tell you anything and make comparability impossible. Binary reporting of case data and no viral load statistics was the biggest mistake that was made. The pcr tests have that information, they didn’t want it.
Why every statistical measurement was poorly chosen is a question we shouldn’t let up on as a society. -
Here in Oregon we went from around 16,000 confirmed cases of the flu from October 2019- to Jan 5 2020 to 4 confirmed cases of the flu for the same period in ‘20-‘21.
Four. This doesn’t address excess death in 2020 but it shows Oregon somehow, all but eradicated the flu. And our overall deaths were lower in 2020. And we still can’t go inside a restaurant and eat. -
Flu deaths only a fraction of normal. Deaths by heart attack, cancer etc. nearly eradicated! It's a miracle!
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a couple of things are going to happen
1 - the deaths after January 20th will be moved back to December 20 to get those numbers up
2 - Covid will stop by May but mandatory masks will continue because the CDC will count the flu cases as Covid in 21
Biden will be the miracle cure for all known diseases - win Nobel Prize for Medicine - turn over control of NWO USA to Kommie Harris -
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Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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Crickets? I'm waiting for you to change your last name toFire_Marshall_Bill said:
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I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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Is there Nothing Trump can’t do??!?Kaepsknee said:Here in Oregon we went from around 16,000 confirmed cases of the flu from October 2019- to Jan 5 2020 to 4 confirmed cases of the flu for the same period in ‘20-‘21.
Four. This doesn’t address excess death in 2020 but it shows Oregon somehow, all but eradicated the flu. And our overall deaths were lower in 2020. And we still can’t go inside a restaurant and eat. -
True. It's probably a little higher than that. But not way higher.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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Americans are fat and in poor health.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:And maybe 4.5 percent of the world's population. That makes no sense. Want to weigh in corona bros?
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Ummm. Has no one been paying attention?
The WHO recommended that you count deaths in two ways.
1. People that died from COVID.
2. People that died while they had COVID.
Therefore most nations are counting the people that died from COVID.
Mean while in the US, the CDC decided to only count people that died while they had COVID.
Apples and Oranges.
The CDC admitted this, but I'm sure Twitter, Facebook and UTube blocked it as conspiracy theory.
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Obtuse motherfucker heard fromHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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You believed every number you could find dumbassHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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Was that a humor attempt?animate said:
Crickets? I'm waiting for you to change your last name toFire_Marshall_Bill said:
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They count them that way to measure the possible needed scope of the community's capacity to respond.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
Think of it this way: A lot of people who have the virus are treated as on a possible death by covid path, which then gets interrupted by a lethal event, such as a heart-attack, stroke, or car crash. CDC will err to the larger *possible* Covid death number because they can't completely rule out Covid as a contributing factor in the death.
The fucking crime is the lack of simply explaining this to people, but as we know, Biden & Co are counting on everyone being panicked and ignorant so they can sneak in their shit agenda when nobody's looking. -
the reason is MONEY - someone is making money on Covid deaths. When it is all corrected those that were overpaid will not have to repay*.TurdBomber said:
They count them that way to measure the possible needed scope of the community's capacity to respond.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
Think of it this way: A lot of people who have the virus are treated as on a possible death by covid path, which then gets interrupted by a lethal event, such as a heart-attack, stroke, or car crash. CDC will err to the larger *possible* Covid death number because they can't completely rule out Covid as a contributing factor in the death.
The fucking crime is the lack of simply explaining this to people, but as we know, Biden & Co are counting on everyone being panicked and ignorant so they can sneak in their shit agenda when nobody's looking.
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Don’t know about other states, countries, Democratic Republics, etc., but if you tested positive for covid in Oregon and then died from ANY cause up to 60 days after testing positive, then you were a covid death. Mind you the average age of death of covid is 78 here in Gas Pump country.TurdBomber said:
They count them that way to measure the possible needed scope of the community's capacity to respond.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
Think of it this way: A lot of people who have the virus are treated as on a possible death by covid path, which then gets interrupted by a lethal event, such as a heart-attack, stroke, or car crash. CDC will err to the larger *possible* Covid death number because they can't completely rule out Covid as a contributing factor in the death.
The fucking crime is the lack of simply explaining this to people, but as we know, Biden & Co are counting on everyone being panicked and ignorant so they can sneak in their shit agenda when nobody's looking.
There are also some reported cases of accidental death victims being tested post Mortem and coming up positive and being counted as a covid death as well. Small and anecdotal but clearly shows the lengths taken to keep it grim. -
I did some grocer approved google searching. The US has a population of around 333 million people. If you take a bunch of Western European nations until you add up to near 330 million and then add up their covid deaths you are at least in the same ballpark as the "clown show" run United States. It's like 500K - 430K deaths. If you remove the actual "clown show" that was New York City it's like 460K-430K. This is essentially a comparison of "lock down" Europe and the partially open United States. As the previous administration and now our new improved administration says, Virus gonna virus. Yes, all these numbers are staggering but as has been discussed before, Influenza, heart disease, cancer etc. are all WAY down. Covid has blown through and scythed down the dry tinder or people already on the brink of disaster. Whether they knew it (diabetes, age) or not (stage four cancers, malfunctioning heart valves). If we achieve herd immunity this year we will find that a true "dark winter" will be next winter when we take off the masks and influenza rips our society a new one.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I don't know why anyone would believe we have 500,000 COVID deathsHHusky said:Reported Covid deaths. I don't know why anyone would actually believe we have one-fifth of all Covid deaths.
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Pretty much everyone around me is dead. It's like a God damn ghost town out here
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Please to be stacking the bodies like cordwood. The Throbber is burning up too many fucking air miles jetting around looking for the damned things.Pitchfork51 said:Pretty much everyone around me is dead. It's like a God damn ghost town out here
Then DM me a screen shot of the google maps with directions.
