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City of Long Beach forces Grocery Stores to boost employee pay by $4.00 and hour...

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited February 2021 in Tug Tavern
and predictable results ensue. This post could have possibly risen to the levels of acceptability on Coug's new snooty finance board but fuck'em. I'd rather be slumming it here.


grocery chain Kroger says it is already compensating its employees extra amid COVID-19, and the firm reacted by promptly announcing the permanent closure of two stores over the mandate.


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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,673 Founders Club
    It’s going to take a generation to unfuck California
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited February 2021

    They should be forced to stay open



    The state agency in charge of ensuring “fair prices” ordered some 214 supermarkets owned by 26 chains to drop their prices, pro-government newspaper Ultimas Noticias reported on Saturday.

    “This Tuesday we received an accusation and we deployed immediately. We confirmed that the big chains were increasing prices without any justification, because they were doing it for products that were in stock, not new ones,” William Contreras, the head of the agency known as Sundde, told the paper.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    They should be forced to stay open

    Like an oasis in a food desert
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    hardhat said:

    They should be forced to stay open



    The state agency in charge of ensuring “fair prices” ordered some 214 supermarkets owned by 26 chains to drop their prices, pro-government newspaper Ultimas Noticias reported on Saturday.

    “This Tuesday we received an accusation and we deployed immediately. We confirmed that the big chains were increasing prices without any justification, because they were doing it for products that were in stock, not new ones,” William Contreras, the head of the agency known as Sundde, told the paper.
    and when there are No products in stock? What then?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    doogie said:

    hardhat said:

    They should be forced to stay open



    The state agency in charge of ensuring “fair prices” ordered some 214 supermarkets owned by 26 chains to drop their prices, pro-government newspaper Ultimas Noticias reported on Saturday.

    “This Tuesday we received an accusation and we deployed immediately. We confirmed that the big chains were increasing prices without any justification, because they were doing it for products that were in stock, not new ones,” William Contreras, the head of the agency known as Sundde, told the paper.
    and when there are No products in stock? What then?
    Government subsidy
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,196
    No one should make less than 50k a year!!!!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    thechatch said:

    No one should make less than 50k a year!!!!

    $50K!!! You can't raise a family of 4 in Southern California on $50,000 a year.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit , and illegals because why would you want low income wages to increase due to supply and demand.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter
    Honest question - Are you in a Union and if so how much are your monthly dues and what do you think they get you?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Kobe, do you oppose illegal immigration?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I work in a place that has been compensating employees since last March. So my coworkers and I have been well taken care of since the start. This newly added extra pay resulted in my company taking away one of the two yearly raises. Doesn't really effect me as I'm capped out although I feel really bad for the people that are trying to claw their way up the ladder. This is a pretty big setback for some of them. Having public servants that have no idea how the scales of business work is retarded. As one arm goes up another goes down. The money doesn't come from thin air. It boggles my mind. My company is extremely solvent so we won't see contraction but I feel for people that may lose their jobs because of this "hero pay" when all of us grocery workers haven't missed a paycheck since the pandemic started. Seems misguided. Maybe these dopes should SJW for food service workers or small landlords. They've all been fucked especially hard. Two cents asked for, maybe a half cent given.

    The grocery stores were already paying their employees more money due to Covid. The city just came along and mandated that they pay them even more.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Link?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/
    Thought so.

    Without fail, this is how a leftard argues, from the KobeSlobberer, the Dazzler, or George Stephanopoulos -

    1. Play the racist/bigot card.

    2. Make a weak lame ass moral equivalency argument.

    3. Phuck some strawman ass

    4. Ignore a request for information.

    5. Lie.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) 1.6 million workers, or 1.9% of all hourly paid, non-self-employed workers, earned wages at or below the federal minimum wage in 2019. That year, 82.3 million people were paid hourly rates, making up 58.1% of all wage and salary workers in the United States.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter
    Since the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, in most states they require a higher minimum wage than the federal bottom. I did find this -

    So, the Slobberer still got it wrong. More than half the people working are making over $19 and hour.

    https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2019/#:~:text=The median wage in 2019,time, full-year worker.

    The median hourly wage—the wage at which half the workforce is paid more and half the workforce is paid less—stands at $19.33 per hour. For a full-time, full-year worker, this would translate into about $40,000 per year.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,620 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    I work in a place that has been compensating employees since last March. So my coworkers and I have been well taken care of since the start. This newly added extra pay resulted in my company taking away one of the two yearly raises. Doesn't really effect me as I'm capped out although I feel really bad for the people that are trying to claw their way up the ladder. This is a pretty big setback for some of them. Having public servants that have no idea how the scales of business work is retarded. As one arm goes up another goes down. The money doesn't come from thin air. It boggles my mind. My company is extremely solvent so we won't see contraction but I feel for people that may lose their jobs because of this "hero pay" when all of us grocery workers haven't missed a paycheck since the pandemic started. Seems misguided. Maybe these dopes should SJW for food service workers or small landlords. They've all been fucked especially hard. Two cents asked for, maybe a half cent given.

    The grocery stores were already paying their employees more money due to Covid. The city just came along and mandated that they pay them even more.
    Not all of them. Many, and most of the big boys, dropped the hazard/hero/thank you pay last summer.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,620 Founders Club

    Honest question - Are you in a Union and if so how much are your monthly dues and what do you think they get you?


    I'd rather not answer that. I will say that I have worked for both and prefer a non union environment. The Unions I have been a part of over promise and woefully under deliver. It's a major racket.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Since the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, in most states they require a higher minimum wage than the federal bottom. I did find this -

    So, the Slobberer still got it wrong. More than half the people working are making over $19 and hour.

    https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2019/#:~:text=The median wage in 2019,time, full-year worker.

    The median hourly wage—the wage at which half the workforce is paid more and half the workforce is paid less—stands at $19.33 per hour. For a full-time, full-year worker, this would translate into about $40,000 per year.

    What part was wrong?
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,629 Founders Club

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Any concession that $15 is a bullshit arbitrary number that carries different value depending on zip code?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Bob_C said:

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Any concession that $15 is a bullshit arbitrary number that carries different value depending on zip code?
    Any concession that most of those zip codes are red? Poor and uneducated is just how you like em.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,629 Founders Club
    Sure, likely true. You want to make them even poorer with federal policy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,703 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    Any concession that $15 is a bullshit arbitrary number that carries different value depending on zip code?
    Any concession that most of those zip codes are red? Poor and uneducated is just how you like em.
    The policies you favor fuck the poor hard

    And thats a fact beyond dispute
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    This is why we need universal healthcare and a robust welfare system or UBI. It’s obvious those stores were struggling anyways and using this as a scapegoat is convenient. It’s sad that people lost their jobs but a business that can’t pay a living wage is a failure, no matter how desperately you want the rich to walk on your backs over that puddle.

    It’s pathetic that you guys fall for this every single time. A corporation or billionaire whines about anything and you immediately drop to your knees and put their balls on your chin. And then you cry about globalism like you’re not the ones enabling them to be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.

    Why do the shittiest jobs have to pay a living wage? They are for teenagers and shit
    42% of the country makes less than $15 an hour.
    And?