And so it begins....

Mosster47

doogsinparadise said:

Paying the players is the last stop in what has become a very long trip through the NCAA's hypocrisy regarding athlete eligibility, and is obviously the most extreme response. If you don't like that then what about allowing athletes the chance to make money off of their name and likeness, like other Americans. This whole libertarian "well they don't have to play" bullshit is childish. Neither do the coaches, yet they're making millions each year. No one is suggesting that the players should be making $30k a year, just that some portion of the billions of dollars they create for college sports be passed down.

I've been saying this forever. Johnny Football is a multimillion dollar name and should be paid as such. The 3rd string guard at ATM is worth a scholarship, barely. If these kids can go out and make their own money then they should he able to.

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Mosster47 said:

doogsinparadise said:

Paying the players is the last stop in what has become a very long trip through the NCAA's hypocrisy regarding athlete eligibility, and is obviously the most extreme response. If you don't like that then what about allowing athletes the chance to make money off of their name and likeness, like other Americans. This whole libertarian "well they don't have to play" bullshit is childish. Neither do the coaches, yet they're making millions each year. No one is suggesting that the players should be making $30k a year, just that some portion of the billions of dollars they create for college sports be passed down.

I've been saying this forever. Johnny Football is a multimillion dollar name and should be paid as such. The 3rd string guard at ATM is worth a scholarship, barely. If these kids can go out and make their own money then they should he able to.

Fortunately O'bannon vs NCAA should solve that.

Ridiculous how much money EA sports made off these guys.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

RoadDawg55 said:

I don't see why they can't give football players a larger stipend. Same with basketball. Tough luck to the other sports that don't make money. That said, the people who think it would eliminate corruption are morons.

Agreed, but politically it won't work. Whiney cunt feminists and the general vaginized state that's gripped this country won't allow it.

TTJ

CollegeDoog said:

RaceBannon said:

I wasn't in favor of Title 9 when it happened but its settled science. Also most universities aren't profiting by billions. They just aren't. Try to get the treatment you get at UO in a minor league. You won't. The education and training are worth 100K easy. Bust the system and get a fucking bus ride and a broken body for pennies

http://deadspin.com/no-paying-athletes-wont-bankrupt-college-sports-1502028351

http://deadspin.com/why-the-arguments-against-ncaa-pay-for-play-suck-1481854847

Ever seen a minor league baseball stadium look like this?

MikeDamone

RavennaDawg said:

Title IX applies to scholarships. There is no mandate that University employees in general, or employees of the athletic department, have some sort of gender balance.

College football does not need the NCAA. One of these days the SEC will add FSU and Miami, and say We Can Have SEC College Football without the NCAA, we'll just play ourselves, and pay the players, and people will watch and the SEC will make money.

It makes sense if you ignore the government. You are proposing a capitalistic solution that the government and it's courts simply won't allow.

MikeDamone

Tailgater said:

RaceBannon said:

Pay the players? Sure as long as Suzy the softball player gets paid the same. Title 9. Not so easy now. Its not like that money is going in someone's pocket. Its funding the program and all the other programs.

Title 9 isn't universal in that equal opportunity to play and receive a full ride scholarship can't and won't be the same as equal pay for unequal play. Neither softball nor any women's sport can be considered a vocation when it costs more to play than the earnings generated from playing for the entertainment of paying spectators.

If anything, paying college athletes could eventually blow Title 9 out of the water with respect to any university's athletic department business contributions from football and men's basketball. No judge living on mars or even in the womb of Women's Liberation could mandate equal pay for unequal play when comparing softball to football. We may be fare in an American way, but we are not communists.

Yes, a judge could mandate that. A softball player putting in the same hours as a football player would certainly be paid the same. The government and courts would have it no other way.

DeepPurple

MikeDamone said:

topdawgnc said:

doogsinparadise said:

Pay the players.

I get colleges are making BIG money off these kids ... no argument there.

However ...

As of Quarter 1 in 2012, the average student loan balance for all age groups is $24,301. About one-quarter of borrowers owe more than $28,000; 10% of borrowers owe more than $54,000; 3% owe more than $100,000; and less than 1%, or 167,000 people, owe more than $200,000. (Source: FRBNY)

AND ...

Most these kids would never GET the opportunity to go to college if it wasn't for being able to run or throw a ball.

I get it ...

But part of me says ... cut the education, pay them and start a minor league.

If it's such a shitty deal they could just decide not to play. No one is forcing them. They could get get into these universities based on their SAT scores, grades, community service, etc. and either work, get loans or have their parents pay for the education...

No one is holding a gun to their heads...

Exactly right.

But sure, I say pay them. Figure out how many hours they work for their sport, give them a fair wage for their time, and figure out what a typical education costs a year (30K?), divide that by 9 months of work (at the most) and what do they earn today already?... (30,000/39) = $770 a week... for 25 hours of work a week.

They are already getting paid. I'd say that is a pretty fucking good college job.

pawz

RaceBannon said:

Pay the players? Sure as long as Suzy the softball player gets paid the same. Title 9. Not so easy now. Its not like that money is going in someone's pocket. Its funding the program and all the other programs.

I like to make 3M per year at a non-profit and call the enterprise not-for-profit. I do that.

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TTJ said:

CollegeDoog said:

RaceBannon said:

I wasn't in favor of Title 9 when it happened but its settled science. Also most universities aren't profiting by billions. They just aren't. Try to get the treatment you get at UO in a minor league. You won't. The education and training are worth 100K easy. Bust the system and get a fucking bus ride and a broken body for pennies

http://deadspin.com/no-paying-athletes-wont-bankrupt-college-sports-1502028351

http://deadspin.com/why-the-arguments-against-ncaa-pay-for-play-suck-1481854847

Ever seen a minor league baseball stadium look like this?

Paying college football players would not diminish fan interest.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/no-fans-wont-stop-watching-if-college-players-get-pai-1501305452

oregonblitzkrieg

doogsinparadise said:

Pay the players.

They already get paid. Free school. Free publicity. A ticket to the NFL/NBA etc. with a strong collegiate performance. Fucking duh. That's pay enough. The idea of paying college athletes is retarded. The system works, don't fix what's not broken.