Manchin says no on $2000 direct aid; joins GOP in vote. Possible party switch?
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Yes, like I said, he’d support a stand-alone bill. That’s not going to pass Pelosi’s House. Their priority seems to be impeaching Drumpf anyhow.TheKobeStopper said: -
I’d rather up the amount to those actually affected and take off government workers as the offset that had no actual loss in pay from the list.TheKobeStopper said:
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Plenty of Moderates in the GOP. Mittens, the broads from AK and Maine, Sasse, Cornyn, guy from PA name the moderate Rat Senators?GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins. -
You know why they don't want a stand alone bill. No money for your donor class, and all your other pet projects in a stand alone bill.NorthwestFresh said:
Yes, like I said, he’d support a stand-alone bill. That’s not going to pass Pelosi’s House. Their priority seems to be impeaching Drumpf anyhow.TheKobeStopper said: -
Well he is on team selloutTheKobeStopper said:If he switches parties he’s just another Republican. As it stands, he’s one of the most powerful democrats.
And he walked it back, he just wants something. -
Bad take. Representing a poor state doesn't make one responsible for that plight.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah he’s done great work for the poorest state in the country.GreenRiverGatorz said:It's still awfully warm for Manchin's next reelection in 2024, but he's someone who must feel awfully uneasy with where everything has gone. The blue dogs are damn near extinct, and the GOP hasn't made itself appealing at all for anyone with a moderate bent.
Frankly Congress could use a few more Joe Manchins.
You're also ironically touching on one of the reasons we need more legislators like Manchin. Congress at its "best" operated as a series of compromises and plurality-building, often through concessions to specific states that each Congressman traded on. That kind of regionalized process resulted in a legislative branch that actually legislated.
Contrast that with legislating done based on national party and ideology as the motivating factor, and the resulting mess it's given us. -
Wasn't the Klan Senator from West Virginia?
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Manchin is like every other WV Senator...he'll vote for whatever as soon as they back the truck up with pork projects. WV is going to get a TON of money the next 2 years.
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That should definitely be a start. 95% of the country doesn't need a stimulus. But the ones who are hurting are hurting bad. Neither party seems interested in injecting a little precision into this stimulus and actually targeting those who need it. It's fucking baffling.Bob_C said:
I’d rather up the amount to those actually affected and take off government workers as the offset that had no actual loss in pay from the list.TheKobeStopper said: -
If the dems send money to Americans they don't get millions in kick backs. They love the tax money sent back as payment for sending the money in the first place. That's how this all works. All of it. Ask the Clintons or Obungholes.RaceBannon said:Because the government shut the thing down and because we? are still sending billions of dollars over seas, and because PPP was looted by donors, a stand alone check is the only answer that makes sense
By the time they do anything anyone in trouble is fucked anyway
Postponing the rent is like getting a loan from a shark. Those past months will still be due
