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DO RANKINGS MATTER?: TAKING A LOOK AT OHIO STATE AND CLEMSON’S RECRUITING NUMBERS
DerekJohnson
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Should have could have won last year
But Dabo outcoached Day
Of course, inadequate coaching can and often does take that talent and squander it, or underachieve with it.
But even with great coaching, you can only get so far with scheme and trickeration. Eventually, the cream rises. The Peach Bowl is a good example. I'm not convinced Kirby is a great HC, Cincy came out punching, Georgia was flat as fuck and dead on the sidelines. And then the physical disparities start to assert themselves.
Not always. But 9 / 10ths of the tim.
It looked like Night and Day out there from last year. If Ryan Day can coach welcome to the next dynasty
I like the Bucks over Bama
Amazingly on some level it looked like that last night.
Ohio State: 14 5-stars, 52 4-stars
Clemson: 11 5-stars, 35 4-stars
Notre Dame: 2 5-stars, 44 4-stars
Projections for 2021 with known departures and before additional changes, +\-
Oregon: 4 5-stars, 43 4-stars
USC: 2 5-stars, 42 4-stars
Washington: 2 5-stars, 37 4-stars
Those rosters are theoretically good enough to compete for the third or fourth playoff spot to get blown out by Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, or Georgia.
The Big Ten or Big-12 won’t have three teams that talented, and the ACC will be close with Miami and UNC. But the national narrative will once again be about how shitty the Pac-12 is. The conference’s other problem is that recruits in the West or JuCo or wherever the fuck Wittingham and Wilcox find their players are underrated. The conference will fuck over a good team with: shitty reffing, a Thursday night trip to the state of Arizona, or some other thing that Ohio State or Oklahoma won’t have to deal with. And the cycle will continue.
Clay Helton forever!
Five stars leaving: Amon Ra and Warren Gs son to the draft, Pala Gratuity (transfer out), Stephen Carr (?)
Remaining: Bruh McCoy
Incoming: Korey Foreman
I don’t know what Korey Foreman was thinking, I can only assume that Clay Helton lied to him and told him that Urban Meyer would be his actual coach. Or he gave him the sales pitch on how good Drake Jackson was as a freshman and Clay had him switch positions to get much worse; he can do that for him too. Maybe he even went for the big guns and taped Foreman to the back of a USC jersey or started a canned food drive, we’ll never know.
It’s not a bad class, but I have never seen a 2-2-7 defense. I think Clay is going for the ol’ Willie Taggart artificially inflate the recruiting ranking with DBs and WRs to make himself look better strategy. I wanted Ceyair Wright, thought Oregon had a chance after he took a visit last month to walk around campus - but Feld flexing and yelling through FaceTime isn’t as effective.
And some would argue RN though he only did it once, it's just the one time he did it he went all in on it.
I’m not disputing that “a lot of Buckeye fans were sick of Urban” - I’m sure some of them had grown tired of averaging 12-1 seasons, and wanted to gamble on a first time head coach who had been fired from his previous two jobs.
I’m more curious who those Terrelle Pryor types were after Braxton Miller. Because Urban had three other starting QBs: JT Barrett, Cardale Jones for 7 games, and Dwayne Haskins.
Urban did choose Dwayne Haskins over Joe Burrow, and I can see why Ohio State fans wanted Urban gone as Ohio State coach after that move. When Haskins finished third in the Heisman after passing for 5000 yard with 50 TDs, the following year Joe Burrow passed for 5600 yards and 60 TDs while winning the Heisman! It sure looked dumb, and I would have also been retroactively sick of Urban Meyer.
I assume the quality these very real Ohio State fans meant as the commonality was athleticism/speed over arm talent, since both Pryor and Miller both converted to WR in the NFL.
Those other three QBs would be a funny comparison to the Pryor and Braxton Miller types. Dwayne Haskins didn’t just run a slow 40, he ran THE slowest QB 40 at the combine. Finishing .07 seconds behind the second slowest, local favorite Gardner Cashew. Meanwhile, the fastest of the three, JT Barrett, blazed his was to a time .03 seconds faster than noted dual threat Jake Browning and only .33 seconds behind Terrelle Pryor’s time.
I feel bad for those Ohio State fans who had to suffer though JT Barrett as he broke Drew Brees’ conference record for TD passes by 14. Or as he finished with the 2nd highest completion percentage since 1985 and the 4th highest passer rating in Big Ten history. It’s even worse if those fans stuck around to watch Dwayne Haskins pass Barrett and become the Big Ten’s career efficiency leader.
The tyranny of Urban Meyer‘s Terrelle-Pryor-type-QBs is over, as Ohio State now uses a very different QB in Justin Fields: Pryor is 6’4” 228 while Fields is only 6’3” 225. Both were the number 2 overall recruit in the country, but Fields was rated .9998 while Pryor was a peasant like .9997. Pryor was a basketball star and Fields was a baseball star. Pryor ran a 4.38 40, slowpoke Fields was laser timed at 4.43 seconds. I understand where those Ohio State fans were coming from, I would also grow tired of that.