The Cost of Justice
Comments
-
Given his strong Christianity and what communism looked like at the time, he should have rejected it. But he repeatedly called himself more socialistic than capitalistic. He’s a Bernie, not a Karl.hardhat said:Yawn.
King openly rejected communism:
“During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”
Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.
“First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.
Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.
“Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.
“Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.
And I agree with King that turning people into a cog in the wheel of the state is wrong. Which is why I don’t want a state at all. -
Martin Luther King Jr is an absolute loser who failed more spectacularly than he could ever dream of
-
Dude pulled a lot of tail.Pitchfork51 said:Martin Luther King Jr is an absolute loser who failed more spectacularly than he could ever dream of
Respect the player.
-
I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.SFGbob said:
This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.TheKobeStopper said:
Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-TurdBomber said:
No matter that it's true, of course.TheKobeStopper said:I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.
“The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”
“I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”
“Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”
You guys are so far out of your depth.
King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.
It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that. -
He also liked being pissed on.hardhat said:
Hitler thought his artwork was good.TheKobeStopper said:I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.
-
MLK had a good message. So did Malcolm X. The current iteration is insane and the exact opposite of those two.TheKobeStopper said:
I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.SFGbob said:
This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.TheKobeStopper said:
Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-TurdBomber said:
No matter that it's true, of course.TheKobeStopper said:I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.
“The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”
“I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”
“Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”
You guys are so far out of your depth.
King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.
It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
Just curious, care to go on record on your opinion of Kendi? -
How does communism look any different today cunt?TheKobeStopper said:
Given his strong Christianity and what communism looked like at the time, he should have rejected it. But he repeatedly called himself more socialistic than capitalistic. He’s a Bernie, not a Karl.hardhat said:Yawn.
King openly rejected communism:
“During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”
Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.
“First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.
Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.
“Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.
“Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.
And I agree with King that turning people into a cog in the wheel of the state is wrong. Which is why I don’t want a state at all. -
TheKobeStopper said:
"Given his strong Christianity and what communism looked like at the time, he should have rejected it. But he repeatedly called himself more socialistic than capitalistic. He’s a Bernie, not a Karl."
Dude phucking took his honeymoon in the USSR and championed the commies in Nicaragua. He sucked Castro's and Hugo Chavez's dick. Pretending that Bernie is some sort of socialism lite is the sign of a weak mind. Leftards lie and love to be lied to. Also ignorant as phuck. -
I live for your approval. The people who are rejecting King's message today are all on your team Kobe, not mine. Pretty amazing that a racist country like ours only has one national holiday for a single individual, who just happened to be black. King was an impressive by very flawed person as we all are. He did plagiarize his Doctorial thesis and he did constantly cheat on his wife and most likely rape a few women but unlike other flawed individuals in history who are white, like Thomas Jefferson, we don't talk about King's warts.TheKobeStopper said:
I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.SFGbob said:
This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.TheKobeStopper said:
Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-TurdBomber said:
No matter that it's true, of course.TheKobeStopper said:I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.
“The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”
“I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”
“Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”
You guys are so far out of your depth.
King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.
It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
