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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    edited December 2020
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    This is you saying racists think a persons skin is everything and determines their character.

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    Of all the despicable shit you’ve said, using MLKs words to whine about how oppressed you are as a white person is the worst.
    I didn't say anything about white people my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend.
    Do you think the racists in this country judge white people on the color of their skin and not the content of their character?
    This is a question asking if racists judge white people on their skin color and not the content of their character. You answered yes.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    Of all the despicable shit you’ve said, using MLKs words to whine about how oppressed you are as a white person is the worst.
    I didn't say anything about white people my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend.
    This is you saying you weren’t talking about white people.

    Do you see how stupid you sound?
    And this is you being so fucking pig ignorant and sheltered in your leftist bubble that you feel only white people can be racists and only black people can be the victims of racism. It's the racist left, made up of racial charlatans like Robin DeAngelo and black racist charlatans like Kendi who believe that the color of a person's skin is more important than the content of their character. It's not conservatives who have rejected King's dream of a color blind society, it's idiot leftists on you team who have rejected it.
    To be clear, this is you conceding that you were using King’s words to cry about racism against white people.

    And King was a leftist, you fool.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    This is you saying racists think a persons skin is everything and determines their character.

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    Of all the despicable shit you’ve said, using MLKs words to whine about how oppressed you are as a white person is the worst.
    I didn't say anything about white people my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend.
    Do you think the racists in this country judge white people on the color of their skin and not the content of their character?
    This is a question asking if racists judge white people on their skin color and not the content of their character. You answered yes.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    Of all the despicable shit you’ve said, using MLKs words to whine about how oppressed you are as a white person is the worst.
    I didn't say anything about white people my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend.
    This is you saying you weren’t talking about white people.

    Do you see how stupid you sound?
    And this is you being so fucking pig ignorant and sheltered in your leftist bubble that you feel only white people can be racists and only black people can be the victims of racism. It's the racist left, made up of racial charlatans like Robin DeAngelo and black racist charlatans like Kendi who believe that the color of a person's skin is more important than the content of their character. It's not conservatives who have rejected King's dream of a color blind society, it's idiot leftists on you team who have rejected it.
    To be clear, this is you conceding that you were using King’s words to cry about racism against white people.

    And King was a leftist, you fool.
    No habla gibberish.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,704 Standard Supporter
    Damn I had to open a bunch of Kobeknobslobberer threads to say fuck off!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Something about playing chess with a pigeon comes to mind.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Kaepsknee said:

    Something about playing chess with a pigeon comes to mind.

    One of my favorite analogies except there isn’t a Leftist who posts here that even comes close to pretending chess; it’s still checkers.

    On other boards with more intelligent Leftists that’s their game.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Kaepsknee said:

    Something about playing chess with a pigeon comes to mind.


  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    Hitler thought his artwork was good.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. The Color of a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines your score in the Oppression Olympics.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    Critical Race Theory Superiority guy.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2020

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    50 years and the racists still haven’t come up with any new arguments.

    50 years later and the racist now all reject King's arguments. Color a person's skin is everything, in fact it determines the content of your character.
    Of all the despicable shit you’ve said, using MLKs words to whine about how oppressed you are as a white person is the worst.
    I didn't say anything about white people my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend.
    Do you think the racists in this country judge white people on the color of their skin and not the content of their character?
    Yes. Absolutely. Ignorant non-white racists do it all the time. It's what they are taught.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,765 Founders Club
    So we're still in 1965

    Good job democrats
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2020

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    50 years later, and MLK is still just as wrong now as he was back then. See the fanciful, widely discredited by historians everywhere, historical fiction NYT 1619 project.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited December 2020

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.

    King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.

    It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter
    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    How are blacks exploited in the US? Shouldn't be hard since they are so exploited. Black in the US basically have the same per capita income as citizens in Italy. The cost of living in the US is much lower than in Italy which taxes the sh*t out of everything, so basically blacks have a higher standard of living. Like defining black for AA purposes, Tug leftards won't touch this one.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    hardhat said:

    Yawn.
    King openly rejected communism:
    “During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”

    Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.

    “First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.

    Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.

    “Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.


    “Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.

    MLK Superiority Guy > Critical Race Theory Superiority Guy.

    (Hi @TheKobeStopper !)

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    Yawn.
    King openly rejected communism:
    “During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”

    Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.

    “First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.

    Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.

    “Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.


    “Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.

    Given his strong Christianity and what communism looked like at the time, he should have rejected it. But he repeatedly called himself more socialistic than capitalistic. He’s a Bernie, not a Karl.

    And I agree with King that turning people into a cog in the wheel of the state is wrong. Which is why I don’t want a state at all.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Martin Luther King Jr is an absolute loser who failed more spectacularly than he could ever dream of
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    Martin Luther King Jr is an absolute loser who failed more spectacularly than he could ever dream of

    Dude pulled a lot of tail.

    Respect the player.

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.

    King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.

    It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
    I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    Hitler thought his artwork was good.
    He also liked being pissed on.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,642 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.

    King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.

    It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
    I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.
    MLK had a good message. So did Malcolm X. The current iteration is insane and the exact opposite of those two.

    Just curious, care to go on record on your opinion of Kendi?
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club

    hardhat said:

    Yawn.
    King openly rejected communism:
    “During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”

    Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.

    “First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.

    Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.

    “Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.


    “Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.

    Given his strong Christianity and what communism looked like at the time, he should have rejected it. But he repeatedly called himself more socialistic than capitalistic. He’s a Bernie, not a Karl.

    And I agree with King that turning people into a cog in the wheel of the state is wrong. Which is why I don’t want a state at all.
    How does communism look any different today cunt?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    I feel pretty good about the people claiming I’m struggling being the same ones claiming conservatives are the ones fulfilling MLKs dream. Pretty good.

    No matter that it's true, of course.
    Noted color blind conservative Martin Luther King-

    “The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    “I contend that the cry of "Black Power" is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard”

    “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”

    You guys are so far out of your depth.
    This does nothing to refute the fact that King's goal was a society that judged people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Not only does it not refute it, it doesn't even fucking address it but you're dumb as dog shit so I'm sure you think this is some kind of killer rebuttal.

    King didn't believe that America in 1965 was color blind but his goal was to one day live in country where his kids weren't judged by the color of their skin.

    It's the left that has rejected King's dream. To racists like Kendi and DiAngelo skin color is everything when determining a person guilt and or innocence. It's not Conservatives who think we should use the state to reward and punish people based upon their skin color, it's racist fucking leftist like you who believe that.
    I actually have gained some respect for you in this thread, Bob. We obviously disagree but I figured I could get you to go full “MLK actually sucked” like these other idiots but you didn’t go that path and I’m impressed.
    I live for your approval. The people who are rejecting King's message today are all on your team Kobe, not mine. Pretty amazing that a racist country like ours only has one national holiday for a single individual, who just happened to be black. King was an impressive by very flawed person as we all are. He did plagiarize his Doctorial thesis and he did constantly cheat on his wife and most likely rape a few women but unlike other flawed individuals in history who are white, like Thomas Jefferson, we don't talk about King's warts.