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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    edited December 2020
    chuck said:

    This thread is embarrassing. All my years with this band of misfits, the #1 lesson I was taught is "winners win" and losers rationalize and talk ifs, ands and buts. Lotta rationalizing going on here. Gotta admit: some of it's pretty creative.

    What do you want them to do? Say that your loser ex-coach's losses were better than their loser coach's wins? Lolz. This whole thing always comes off as so terribly insecure. It would be funny if it weren't so pitiful.

    This is the same crowd that used to say Chip Kelley was gimmicky, then when he left insisted he was a great coach and Oregon would never recover.

    Now the brain trust wants to posit that the defending champ Seminoles weren't as good as a two-loss PSU team? Lolz. GMAFB.


    I glossed over most of the thread and missed that whole section. JFC.

    It's still not doogman.

    I dont know if it's worth arguing whether Chip had a gimmick or if that's the wrong choice of words. He made offensive juggernauts out of a lot of nontraditional talent and nontraditional scheming. He was a great coach while he was there but it wasn't just because of his offense. His teams played well and were dangerous on both sides of the ball and special teams.

    There were at least two teams under the chipster that I'd give at least a shot at the big 3 teams right now. The tOSU team they lost to was as impressive as anyone I've seen since the BCS, and they could have caught a couple of breaks and been in that game to the end. They should have beaten a really good Auburn team in the NC game.

    Fuck em anyways...football started in 1994, hick town school, faggy, 12s style fan base, Oregonians suck at driving, etc.
    The Kelley stuff isn't in this thread. It was a Doog standard from the time. One of the company lines was that Kelley's RPO offense was "soft" and wasn't physical and was gimmicky. Not real football. The other doog narrative was that any QB in that system had no NFL career potential because he wasn't going through traditional read progressions and learning how to be Joe Montana. That pearl from the Doog brain trust hasn't aged well either.

    So we go from Kelley cheats, hammer immimnet, gimmicky system that's bad for QBs, flashy uniforms, lack of substance, etc. etc. etc. to Oregon won't survive Kelley's departure. Narrative immediately flips to Oregon stumbled onto the winning lottery ticket and then lost it. They'll never recover, Chip was a once-in-a-lifetime, Peterman wants to be at UW forever, things will finally be restored to their rightful permanent natural order and USC will again really respect UW.

    Doogs been waiting for Godot for a while now. Hopefully it goes better with Jimmy Shitballz.

    Again, would be comical if it weren't so pitiful. Much like Miami fans I know who still, after all this time, can't stop using the word "swagger," in the same Doog sense of some fantasy return to a state of affairs that hasn't existed for eons.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    Battered wives only maintain sanity for so long.
    That's not what it is at all, it's the complete opposite. You? got a taste of winning under Pete and pulled a fucking 180. The other 50% of the brain is 100% doog.
    They're both kinda true.
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    dflea said:

    dnc said:

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    dnc said:

    Lol if our program wasn't run by cucks we could be finally looking at breaking through and winning a ny6.

    I'm glad, Oregon showed up. You can only be lucky if you show up. They deserve it. We don't.

    Yep. My hattred for Oregon is slowly morphing into morphing into hattred for UW and simple envy for UO.

    FYFMFE
    You take that back.

    Don't ever say envy for UO again. Even jokingly.
    I just envy that they give a shit
    They didn't give a shit, which makes this situation, the humiliation, and your mental breakdown even funnier.

    Gates University.

    Fuck off.
    Look who crawled out.

    Mr. 5g.

    Get lost, shitdick. Crawling out of your hole after this season to shoot off your cockgobbler is as funny and pathetic as your 5g bullshit. You know the CIA and NSA can read your thoughts if you watch bowl games, right? Then they sell your thoughts to the Chinese.

    Your thoughts will fetch a solid $.81
    Come watch OBK coninue to struggle as he keeps trying to recover from being outted and run in the Tug.
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    Oregon did beat Russ in the Rose Bowl, so there’s that.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    edited December 2020

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,582
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    edited December 2020

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
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    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    How is penn state a blue blood?
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    edited December 2020
    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Lolz.

    You have a fellow doog here breaking down the superiority of the three teams to which Washington lost its bowl games. I might suggest your attention here is misdirected.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    edited December 2020
    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Here's another spin: Washington got its shit pushed in by each of those teams and made it look respectable late. You? were down 28-7 at half to a two-loss Penn State team that gets more legendary here all the time.

    I'm guessing most people aren't denying the fact that you had a tougher draw in the last three bowl games. I'm guessing they find it annoying you want them to agree with you. About as annoyed as a reasonable Husky would be if a Duck approached them and wanted them to acknowledge that the 2014 Buck team that beat Oregon was better than the 1991 Michigan team that Washington beat. This is essentially what you're up to.
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,582
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    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Oregon and Washington had zero control who their opponents were for these games. You play the team you get matched with. Oregon won and Washington didn’t. There isn’t a try hard trophy for the runner up based on your opponent.
    Umm, yeah, no shit.

    What's your point?

    That I'm wrong?

    lol.
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    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    The Huskies definitely lose the right way.

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    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Oregon and Washington had zero control who their opponents were for these games. You play the team you get matched with. Oregon won and Washington didn’t. There isn’t a try hard trophy for the runner up based on your opponent.
    Umm, yeah, no shit.

    What's your point?

    That I'm wrong?

    lol.
    You're not wrong. But trying to gain validation or discredit another teams validity because of the opponents you or they had to play is doog diggity. I'm sure recruits across the country put quality of opponent as the leading question when looking into a team's championship mantle. Win or GTFO
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    MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 4,405
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    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Oregon and Washington had zero control who their opponents were for these games. You play the team you get matched with. Oregon won and Washington didn’t. There isn’t a try hard trophy for the runner up based on your opponent.
    Umm, yeah, no shit.

    What's your point?

    That I'm wrong?

    lol.
    Three of UW’s seven Rose Bowl victories are against teams that were ranked:

    ‘82 11/13th
    ‘91 17/15th
    ‘01 14/14/17th (BCS)

    Oregon beat teams ranked higher than any of those in two different Holiday Bowls and one Sun Bowl.

    Tell me all about how lucky Oregon is though.







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    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Oregon and Washington had zero control who their opponents were for these games. You play the team you get matched with. Oregon won and Washington didn’t. There isn’t a try hard trophy for the runner up based on your opponent.
    Umm, yeah, no shit.

    What's your point?

    That I'm wrong?

    lol.
    Three of UW’s seven Rose Bowl victories are against teams that were ranked:

    ‘82 11/13th
    ‘91 17/15th
    ‘01 14/14/17th (BCS)

    Oregon beat teams ranked higher than any of those in two different Holiday Bowls and one Sun Bowl.

    Tell me all about how lucky Oregon is though.







    Who cares?

    Haie is just bitter and trying to use strength of NY6 schedules to grasp at any glimmer of dignity he has left.

    It's luck, so what? You have to put yourself in position for luck to find you. Washington could have been in this same position, but they decided to bend over and submit before the bell even sounded. Mario said after the game, Oregon barely had enough scholarship players. The key, Oregon made it happen. If the situation was reversed, Oregon would have still played in the Pac 12 Title game, because Oregon actually cares about football. They might be the last team in the Pac 12 that does. By the end of this decade it won't even matter. We are getting to a point where the Pac 12 has no future left, and I don't expect there to be a Pac 12.
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    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    2018 tOSU and 2017 PSU are better than 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    There isn't on field results or anything to prove that, but we're talking about 2 blue bloods who were loaded with talent and barely missed the playoffs.

    2016 Alabama is better than 2014 FSU, and there isn't an argument that can be made against that.

    So you can 1:1 compare our NY6 bowls with theirs in the last 6 years and pretty easily say that they've lucked out wrt their opponents.

    It's nothing UW shouldn't have been able to overcome, but the denial if this fact pisses me off about Oregon's "hardcore football" fans.
    Oregon and Washington had zero control who their opponents were for these games. You play the team you get matched with. Oregon won and Washington didn’t. There isn’t a try hard trophy for the runner up based on your opponent.
    Umm, yeah, no shit.

    What's your point?

    That I'm wrong?

    lol.
    Three of UW’s seven Rose Bowl victories are against teams that were ranked:

    ‘82 11/13th
    ‘91 17/15th
    ‘01 14/14/17th (BCS)

    Oregon beat teams ranked higher than any of those in two different Holiday Bowls and one Sun Bowl.

    Tell me all about how lucky Oregon is though.







    Who cares?

    Haie is just bitter and trying to use strength of NY6 schedules to grasp at any glimmer of dignity he has left.

    It's luck, so what? You have to put yourself in position for luck to find you. Washington could have been in this same position, but they decided to bend over and submit before the bell even sounded. Mario said after the game, Oregon barely had enough scholarship players. The key, Oregon made it happen. If the situation was reversed, Oregon would have still played in the Pac 12 Title game, because Oregon actually cares about football. They might be the last team in the Pac 12 that does. By the end of this decade it won't even matter. We are getting to a point where the Pac 12 has no future left, and I don't expect there to be a Pac 12.
    Not sure it’s about caring. I was illustrating your same point only in fewer words and in fewer responses.

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    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.

    Thanks for the free pub my dude!





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    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    The Huskies definitely lose quit the right way.

    FIFY. The definition of a Man of Washington in 2020
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    RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
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    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    ntxduck said:

    Jesus Christ what’s happened to you all

    it warms my heart you still get upset, because in your heart of hearts you know it's true as well. a middling wisconsin team and an iowa state team you are 137% more talented than. there's no rebuttal that won't make you look silly but please try
    Who’s upset? You’re mistaking pity for anger. This place is great because it’s usually filled with level headed UW fans. The last 2 weeks have fucked y’all up though. It’s becoming doogman circa 2011
    A lot of people on Twitter and some here refuse to acknowledge how different it is playing Bama, peak PSU, and tOSU vs FSU, Wisc, and now Iowa State.

    A simple acknowledgement would suffice. Yeah winner's win, but winning against our NY6 opponents is a different kind of winning that no Pac 12 school has been at since 2012 or so.
    Bama and tosu, sure. Obviously those teams are on a different level than fsu/wiscy. Peak psu though? Lol cmon dude, that’s doog shit
    Fuck off and look at their roster that year. 2016 wasn't their playoff team. 2017 was.

    And yes that is the game I put most of the blame on UW for, but they were still a (much) better opponent than the 3 Oregon foes I listed off.
    Yeah they had Barkley and gesicki. Doog shit to put them on a Bama OSU tier. 2017 UW definitely had more nfl talent than them.
    That team would prison fuck 2018 and 2019 Oregon.

    Barkley's 80 yard td run off of just his talent was the difference in that game.
    Teams that could prison fuck 2018 Oregon also include 2018 Arizona.

    I do agree that Oregon keeps getting B level opponents in premier bowl games. It is what it is, and in the long term it doesn’t matter. Rose and Fiesta trophies look the same no matter who was beat to acquire them.
    You really should not put FSU and the 2015 Rose Bowl in that category. How is PSU better than the defending national champs with a roster full of NFL players? How is it obvious that even the Buck team UW played is automatically better than FSU? The Buck team that beat Washington was not the Buck team that beat Oregon and Mariota.

    That Rose Bowl had a lot of NFL players on the field. Neither team in that match up has to apologize to Washington for anything. I don't think Oregon could pull off the ass kicking over them again if they played 10 games, but they were clearly good enough to beat them. Mariota was the real deal. Anyone who doesn't think so is fully retarded.
    I thought the topic was 2019 Wisconsin and 2020 Iowa State.

    2014 FSU doesn’t belong in that group, they are as premier of a Rose Bowl win as you could ask for.

    Defending national champs, 27 game winning streak. Heisman winner at QB, one of the NFL’s best RBs, that 2015 draft had was then a record 11 guys drafted. Five first round picks and sixth second round picks on that team.
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