“Asked about guys they targeted in the state that went elsewhere and Lake said every year there are guys they offer that go elsewhere and that's just a reality, but they're excited about the guys who want to be part of the program and they will continue to pump out the most NFL players in the conference and we'll see how good this class is or isn't down the road.”
Not sure why I expected anything other than a bullshit non answer but an apology with the promise of refocusing instate so it doesn’t happen again would have been nice. Instead we just get the we develop NFL guys shit, hey that’s great but clearly you haven’t been communicating that well enough.
Kim's new excuse is that "big boys lose out on recruits to other big boys all the time". Of course he leaves out the fact the big boys replace those recruits with other blue chips instead of falling back on Plan D's like Lake did.
Too be fair Lake’s plan D was really his plan A. Didn’t want to waste time going through A-C just started with D.
“Asked about guys they targeted in the state that went elsewhere and Lake said every year there are guys they offer that go elsewhere and that's just a reality, but they're excited about the guys who want to be part of the program and they will continue to pump out the most NFL players in the conference and we'll see how good this class is or isn't down the road.”
Not sure why I expected anything other than a bullshit non answer but an apology with the promise of refocusing instate so it doesn’t happen again would have been nice. Instead we just get the we develop NFL guys shit, hey that’s great but clearly you haven’t been communicating that well enough.
Kim could have written that for him
Starting to feel some concern
But at the end of the day shit talking Jimmy or corporate Jimmy he has to win. Or GTFO
Doog take: I haven't followed the class that closely this year, and I'm not suicidal over a perceived lack of quality. Not after last season completely broke me.
Maybe I've got the numbers wrong, but my perception is that the higher the "blue chip ratio" got, the shittier the team's play and record, ending in last season's 4-5 dumpster fire with the highest blue chip ratio in the conference, a 5-star quarterback, and finally fewer "3-star weaklings" like BBK starting. It left me wondering if the SOC program was broken, as it sure looked like nobody was getting any better/stronger than they were the day they stepped on campus.
So fuck it. I don't care who they were going to get if those kids aren't going to be developed into big time players anyway. I'll take 12 Greg Gaineses if that's on the menu.
To me, it always came down to those few in-state (in this class) elite kids who are can't-miss difference makers. Egbuka and JTT were this class's Budda or Byron Murphy or John Ross, guys who can singlehandedly turn a game by making an elite play. Everything below those kinds of difference-makers seems to be more dependent on coaching and development than initial ranking.
So no JTT and Egbuka, and I'm just struggling to care about today. The rest will either develop into elite players (Gaines, BBK, Jones, etc.) or they won't, but it won't matter one bit without a few game-breaking players mixed in when facing a roster in the postseason that's full of Egbukas and JTTs.
I mean fuck's sake, we had 43 four/five star kids "in progress" on the roster this year. More than Oregon or USC. We're still gonna be well over 50% 4/5 stars for the foreseeable future. Go out and win some fucking ball games Jimmy or fuck.
If we just get this recruit or that recruit...blah, blah, blah.
I'm sure glad we got ZTF and Ulofoshio, the "must gets" everyone told us about. Losing Kaho really devastated the program.
This is how I should have said it. Well done.
I have a hard time giving a fuck about who signs when they struggle hard to beat Beavis and lose to Stanford at home with a roster full of 4-stars anyway.
Doog take: I haven't followed the class that closely this year, and I'm not suicidal over a perceived lack of quality. Not after last season completely broke me.
Maybe I've got the numbers wrong, but my perception is that the higher the "blue chip ratio" got, the shittier the team's play and record, ending in last season's 4-5 dumpster fire with the highest blue chip ratio in the conference, a 5-star quarterback, and finally fewer "3-star weaklings" like BBK starting. It left me wondering if the SOC program was broken, as it sure looked like nobody was getting any better/stronger than they were the day they stepped on campus.
So fuck it. I don't care who they were going to get if those kids aren't going to be developed into big time players anyway. I'll take 12 Greg Gaineses if that's on the menu.
To me, it always came down to those few in-state (in this class) elite kids who are can't-miss difference makers. Egbuka and JTT were this class's Budda or Byron Murphy or John Ross, guys who can singlehandedly turn a game by making an elite play. Everything below those kinds of difference-makers seems to be more dependent on coaching and development than initial ranking.
So no JTT and Egbuka, and I'm just struggling to care about today. The rest will either develop into elite players (Gaines, BBK, Jones, etc.) or they won't, but it won't matter one bit without a few game-breaking players mixed in when facing a roster in the postseason that's full of Egbukas and JTTs.
I mean fuck's sake, we had 43 four/five star kids "in progress" on the roster this year. More than Oregon or USC. We're still gonna be well over 50% 4/5 stars for the foreseeable future. Go out and win some fucking ball games Jimmy or fuck.
If we just get this recruit or that recruit...blah, blah, blah.
I'm sure glad we got ZTF and Ulofoshio, the "must gets" everyone told us about. Losing Kaho really devastated the program.
This is how I should have said it. Well done.
I have a hard time giving a fuck about who signs when they struggle hard to beat Beavis and lose to Stanford at home with a roster full of 4-stars anyway.
We struggle to beat Beavis for the same reason we can't sign Egbuka who comes from 3 generations of UW superfans, and vice versa. Jimmy can live with losing and complacency.
Doog take: I haven't followed the class that closely this year, and I'm not suicidal over a perceived lack of quality. Not after last season completely broke me.
Maybe I've got the numbers wrong, but my perception is that the higher the "blue chip ratio" got, the shittier the team's play and record, ending in last season's 4-5 dumpster fire with the highest blue chip ratio in the conference, a 5-star quarterback, and finally fewer "3-star weaklings" like BBK starting. It left me wondering if the SOC program was broken, as it sure looked like nobody was getting any better/stronger than they were the day they stepped on campus.
So fuck it. I don't care who they were going to get if those kids aren't going to be developed into big time players anyway. I'll take 12 Greg Gaineses if that's on the menu.
To me, it always came down to those few in-state (in this class) elite kids who are can't-miss difference makers. Egbuka and JTT were this class's Budda or Byron Murphy or John Ross, guys who can singlehandedly turn a game by making an elite play. Everything below those kinds of difference-makers seems to be more dependent on coaching and development than initial ranking.
So no JTT and Egbuka, and I'm just struggling to care about today. The rest will either develop into elite players (Gaines, BBK, Jones, etc.) or they won't, but it won't matter one bit without a few game-breaking players mixed in when facing a roster in the postseason that's full of Egbukas and JTTs.
I’m sure some of these guys will end up being good.
But what’s more concerning is how we got here. I’m not seeing anything that makes me think this staff knows what the fuck they’re doing in recruiting.
Lots of red flags around closing ability, overall hustle, and just getting flat out beat by other programs for their targets.
Oh, I agree. I like the metric for success of getting the guys you want, regardless of recruiting service ranking. Sure seems to me they didn't most of the time. My hope is that the staff is as shitty at evaluation as they are at everything else, and these second/third choice guysm are actually better than their first choices!...
Voi, Peihopa, Spears, and Moore are the 3* guys who appear to be at the top of their offer lists so that's a silver lining.
I honestly don't hate any of our commits, even the guys at the bottom of the rankings like Nunley, Finau, and Wyrsch. The problem is getting blown out on the elite recruits, completely whiffing at DB and TE despite our NFL success at those positions, and the continued dumpster fire at ILB. A year from now Lake either needs to be signing a top 15, majority blue chip class or revamping the entire coaching staff a la Sark in 2012.
Yup. It’s a good depth class but we should have had at least 6 more top end talents. It is what it is. Things need to change.
Doog take: I haven't followed the class that closely this year, and I'm not suicidal over a perceived lack of quality. Not after last season completely broke me.
Maybe I've got the numbers wrong, but my perception is that the higher the "blue chip ratio" got, the shittier the team's play and record, ending in last season's 4-5 dumpster fire with the highest blue chip ratio in the conference, a 5-star quarterback, and finally fewer "3-star weaklings" like BBK starting. It left me wondering if the SOC program was broken, as it sure looked like nobody was getting any better/stronger than they were the day they stepped on campus.
So fuck it. I don't care who they were going to get if those kids aren't going to be developed into big time players anyway. I'll take 12 Greg Gaineses if that's on the menu.
To me, it always came down to those few in-state (in this class) elite kids who are can't-miss difference makers. Egbuka and JTT were this class's Budda or Byron Murphy or John Ross, guys who can singlehandedly turn a game by making an elite play. Everything below those kinds of difference-makers seems to be more dependent on coaching and development than initial ranking.
So no JTT and Egbuka, and I'm just struggling to care about today. The rest will either develop into elite players (Gaines, BBK, Jones, etc.) or they won't, but it won't matter one bit without a few game-breaking players mixed in when facing a roster in the postseason that's full of Egbukas and JTTs.
I mean fuck's sake, we had 43 four/five star kids "in progress" on the roster this year. More than Oregon or USC. We're still gonna be well over 50% 4/5 stars for the foreseeable future. Go out and win some fucking ball games Jimmy or fuck.
If we just get this recruit or that recruit...blah, blah, blah.
I'm sure glad we got ZTF and Ulofoshio, the "must gets" everyone told us about. Losing Kaho really devastated the program.
Heims is the Tryon/ZTF of this class.
Voi could potentially be Greg Gaines with super high end athleticism.
Its not surprising Jimmy doesn't get great return on his "investment"
He is young, a first time head coach, only been at UW, seems like he wants to be in the NFL someday, and comes across somewhat undisciplined and runs his mouth alot.
Coaching both in college and in the NFL is an incestuous good ole boys fraternity. Lake's connections to hire guys (especially proven/in-demand guys) was always going to be extremely limited.
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USC and Oregon are there
“Asked about guys they targeted in the state that went elsewhere and Lake said every year there are guys they offer that go elsewhere and that's just a reality, but they're excited about the guys who want to be part of the program and they will continue to pump out the most NFL players in the conference and we'll see how good this class is or isn't down the road.”
Not sure why I expected anything other than a bullshit non answer but an apology with the promise of refocusing instate so it doesn’t happen again would have been nice. Instead we just get the we develop NFL guys shit, hey that’s great but clearly you haven’t been communicating that well enough.
Starting to feel some concern
But at the end of the day shit talking Jimmy or corporate Jimmy he has to win. Or GTFO
I have a hard time giving a fuck about who signs when they struggle hard to beat Beavis and lose to Stanford at home with a roster full of 4-stars anyway.
Voi could potentially be Greg Gaines with super high end athleticism.
Edit: looked at the tweet, apparently USC and Furd don’t release that info.
He is young, a first time head coach, only been at UW, seems like he wants to be in the NFL someday, and comes across somewhat undisciplined and runs his mouth alot.
Coaching both in college and in the NFL is an incestuous good ole boys fraternity. Lake's connections to hire guys (especially proven/in-demand guys) was always going to be extremely limited.
Im glad they are willing to spend the money.