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The dazzler's approach to advocating for higher taxes - There for other people

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,703
    HHusky said:

    Biden will punt and H will look an idiot again

    Even though I'm not selling my music catalog.
    This is time in the discussion where Dazzler just starts lying. Maybe he tells you what you were really thinking or what you really meant to say.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,365
    edited December 2020

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Just more proof that you never got an MBA. People invest and want a rate of return. That rate of return is after tax rate of return. The higher the tax rate the lower return on investment. That means more risk and less investment. Sort of shocked that your matchbook cover MBA class didn't cover that.

    Fascinating! Except the real world data doesn't support your claim. There's are reasons for that, but discussing them wouldn't be as satisfying to you as pontificating.
    Except every major capital project by business or investment firms runs an after tax rate of return. That's how fascinating it is. You increase taxes on private sector activity and you get less of it. You provide tax incentives for private sector activity - like wind and solar tax credits - you get more of it. When you get around to it you can tell us why gravity doesn't matter.
    We were talking about capital gains. I don't blame you for running from that topic.
    You are drowning here Mr. MBA. You invest in real property or a business, the end game is to sell for more than you paid and that gain is taxed at long-term capital gains rates, currently 20% for individuals and 21% for corporations. The end game is very different if the gain is taxes at 39.6%. Again basic business and Maff concepts escape you.
    Anyone with an MBA or any business experience at all can see that you want to stray from the topic of capital gains. Ever hear of the CAPM, Gasbag? Do business owners ever take a salary? Dividends?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,551 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Just more proof that you never got an MBA. People invest and want a rate of return. That rate of return is after tax rate of return. The higher the tax rate the lower return on investment. That means more risk and less investment. Sort of shocked that your matchbook cover MBA class didn't cover that.

    Fascinating! Except the real world data doesn't support your claim. There's are reasons for that, but discussing them wouldn't be as satisfying to you as pontificating.
    Except every major capital project by business or investment firms runs an after tax rate of return. That's how fascinating it is. You increase taxes on private sector activity and you get less of it. You provide tax incentives for private sector activity - like wind and solar tax credits - you get more of it. When you get around to it you can tell us why gravity doesn't matter.
    We were talking about capital gains. I don't blame you for running from that topic.
    Oh fuck off. You are so far out of your lane it's not even funny.

    Jesus Christ, Dazzler. Over and over again your maff skills get slaughtered. Stay out of finance.

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,365
    edited December 2020

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Just more proof that you never got an MBA. People invest and want a rate of return. That rate of return is after tax rate of return. The higher the tax rate the lower return on investment. That means more risk and less investment. Sort of shocked that your matchbook cover MBA class didn't cover that.

    Fascinating! Except the real world data doesn't support your claim. There's are reasons for that, but discussing them wouldn't be as satisfying to you as pontificating.
    Except every major capital project by business or investment firms runs an after tax rate of return. That's how fascinating it is. You increase taxes on private sector activity and you get less of it. You provide tax incentives for private sector activity - like wind and solar tax credits - you get more of it. When you get around to it you can tell us why gravity doesn't matter.
    We were talking about capital gains. I don't blame you for running from that topic.
    Oh fuck off. You are so far out of your lane it's not even funny.

    Jesus Christ, Dazzler. Over and over again your maff skills get slaughtered. Stay out of finance.

    Setting aside the fact that my MBA was in finance, there's decades of history you girls can't explain with your dogma.

    When your preferred economic propositions don't explain or accurately predict human behavior, the problem is with you.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,564 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Just more proof that you never got an MBA. People invest and want a rate of return. That rate of return is after tax rate of return. The higher the tax rate the lower return on investment. That means more risk and less investment. Sort of shocked that your matchbook cover MBA class didn't cover that.

    Fascinating! Except the real world data doesn't support your claim. There's are reasons for that, but discussing them wouldn't be as satisfying to you as pontificating.
    Except every major capital project by business or investment firms runs an after tax rate of return. That's how fascinating it is. You increase taxes on private sector activity and you get less of it. You provide tax incentives for private sector activity - like wind and solar tax credits - you get more of it. When you get around to it you can tell us why gravity doesn't matter.
    We were talking about capital gains. I don't blame you for running from that topic.
    You are drowning here Mr. MBA. You invest in real property or a business, the end game is to sell for more than you paid and that gain is taxed at long-term capital gains rates, currently 20% for individuals and 21% for corporations. The end game is very different if the gain is taxes at 39.6%. Again basic business and Maff concepts escape you.
    Anyone with an MBA or any business experience at all can see that you want to stray from the topic of capital gains. Ever hear of the CAPM, Gasbag? Do business owners ever take a salary? Dividends?
    No habla gibberish. I have discussed the tax on capital gains and its impact on after tax cash flow. You just choose to tell me that there is no impact on private sector investment activity with a massive increase in the LTCG rate. That not ignoring dazzler that is ignorance.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,365

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Just more proof that you never got an MBA. People invest and want a rate of return. That rate of return is after tax rate of return. The higher the tax rate the lower return on investment. That means more risk and less investment. Sort of shocked that your matchbook cover MBA class didn't cover that.

    Fascinating! Except the real world data doesn't support your claim. There's are reasons for that, but discussing them wouldn't be as satisfying to you as pontificating.
    Except every major capital project by business or investment firms runs an after tax rate of return. That's how fascinating it is. You increase taxes on private sector activity and you get less of it. You provide tax incentives for private sector activity - like wind and solar tax credits - you get more of it. When you get around to it you can tell us why gravity doesn't matter.
    We were talking about capital gains. I don't blame you for running from that topic.
    You are drowning here Mr. MBA. You invest in real property or a business, the end game is to sell for more than you paid and that gain is taxed at long-term capital gains rates, currently 20% for individuals and 21% for corporations. The end game is very different if the gain is taxes at 39.6%. Again basic business and Maff concepts escape you.
    Anyone with an MBA or any business experience at all can see that you want to stray from the topic of capital gains. Ever hear of the CAPM, Gasbag? Do business owners ever take a salary? Dividends?
    No habla gibberish. I have discussed the tax on capital gains and its impact on after tax cash flow. You just choose to tell me that there is no impact on private sector investment activity with a massive increase in the LTCG rate. That not ignoring dazzler that is ignorance.
    You're not listening. I am telling you there is a short term impact in reaction to the change, assuming the change is announced or expected. Then the impact disappears. That has been borne out time and again.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507 Standard Supporter
    Taxation is theft.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,365

    Taxation is theft.

    deep
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,703
    HHusky said:

    Taxation is theft.

    deep

    No red state provides free voter ID


    Deeper and a fucking lie.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Taxation is theft.

    deep
    It is.
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