ULOFOSHIO
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BTP just got obliterated but like a legless zombie he keeps crawling forward with the same dumbass talking pointsbananasnblondes said:
You're 100% right but its pointless to argue with this hivemind shit.RoadDawg55 said:Imagine thinking BBK sucked. I remember wondering what the fuck some of you were watching. The guy was a playmaker and a great college football player.
Forces tons of fumbles, runs over dudes returning picks, has a TFL against Bama, and a sack vs Ohio State. But he only played good against the weak teams!
Oh yeah, had 176 tackles, All American, Pac 12 DPOY. Awards and stat lines slow, weak white guys get.
Watching his college highlight film on Youtube reminded me of what a baller he was. He was fast and was always around the ball.
And he wasn’t good only in his senior season. He was sacking Vernon Adams as a freshman and never redshirted even tho he was only 200 pounds.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFTUrm5sgU
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While we all know Azeem fell off hard as a senior, I always thought Bierria was much better as a junior than a senior as well and maybe better as a sophomore than as a junior. I don't think he was close to a second team all conference level as a senior, I think he got that on name recognition. He wasn't any noticeable amount better as a senior than a sophomore. And I hate to pick on Grundle's boy but Tevis was a hell of a lot better as a junior than as a senior.Houhusky said:
He has consistently put up all pac12 LBsbackthepack said:
We’ve had 3 good LBs in the last 4 years. 1 was a Sark recruit. 1 was Bobby sure. The other wasn’t even PWO’d by BobHouhusky said:
I remember when DDY lost his shit when I said BBK was better than WellingtonPostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is fucking wrong.FremontTroll said:
Prior to 2019 his argument was that our LB play has always been fine. Everyone else pointed out what was coming due to recruiting misses and roster mismanagement.Neighbor2972 said:PGOS starts these Bob Gregory threads every 3 months and it's the same lame argument every time.
Now the argument is our LB play has been fine other than last year.
Truly amazing how one can be completely wrong but simply adjust their premise to account for the new information they previously discounted and claim they were always right.
Tons of doogs including DDY and fudge packer thought Wellington would be good.
Once Wellington and Manu got benched the LB improved tremendously. Thats on Bob to not do that sooner
Your reductionism of my points is fucking stupid.
As far as the rest of the thread
Both recruiting and coaching are important; but recruiting only really matters if you have a good coach.
The LB play has been great to decent, except for 2019. Development of guys has mostly been good. Recruiting has been pretty below average.
Pre-injury/drunk Azeem (with Bierria) was one of the best ILBs in the conference, BBK was one of the best ILBs in the conference, and now olofosheieio is one of the best ILBs in the conference. That doesn’t happen if you have a coach that both sucks at recruiting AND coaching/development. It’s not possible.
Losing Kaho and tootoot sucked, he needs to close on big name guys better, but he isn’t a bad coach and is back to a full stable and putting a good product on the field.
Maybe we should bring up Adam’s good recruiting but shitty roster management and coaching/development while we are here... also bonerpopper too!
2016 - Azeem 1st team all pac12, Berria 2nd team all pac12
2017 - BBK 2nd team all pac12, Berria 2nd team all pac12
2018 - BBK Pat Tillman Defensive Player of the Year and 1st team all pac12
2019 - none
2020 - Olofoshio on his way to 1st team
We have had really good LB play 3 out of the last 4 years and are well on our way to 4/5.
Good fucking point.
Other than BBK I don't know that there's anyone you can point to who has consistently gotten better throughout their time under Bob. IMO literally every non BBK LB under Bob has peaked as a junior (unless you think KB peaked as a sophomore). And it's not because Bob's losing guys early to the draft.
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Weird guys. Its almost like having a full toolbox of the nicest most expensive tools doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to use them?theknowledge said:Someone posted the Blue Chip Ratio in a thread somewhere. Here are a few teams with more talent than UW.
With opt outs, cancellations and maybe not knowing who you might be playing week to week these five teams are struggling to meet their talent expectations.
Texas 65% 5-3
LSU 62% 3-4
Auburn 61% 5-3
Michigan 59% 2-4
Penn St. 58% 1-5
Now, Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Clemson, Georgia, Notre Dame, USC and Texas AM are also on this list with UW and all these teams are having great years record wise, but development, culture, buy in and scheme fit all meld with talent to make great teams. Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State all have over 80% blue chip talent and they look like it. Their players just look different than everyone else's. The rest of the pack is between 50-65% and all those teams need the mix to be right to succeed. 2019 UW is a perfect example of everything being just a little off. It happens to teams every year. -
Ulo wasn’t even a preferred walk on offered by Bob! Fire him! You’re the worst at evaluating what you see out of anyone on the board. 95% of it is copying what DDY or Sub K.’s opinion is.backthepack said:
Loll you’re a try hard fag. Imagine writing 3 posts in support of a coach who has had 3.5 good LBs in the past 4 years (Azeem, BBK, Eddie, and 1/2 Bierra). You think Saban would put up with that?RoadDawg55 said:
Why the need to create narratives? The whole TBS game about some being lay ups, some coming here despite Bob, allnkf the opinions depending on whether the TBS addicts like the coach has always been retarded.backthepack said:
Bob didn’t even PWO Eddie. When Eddie beats out Danny Hammer, Tup, Ah You, Tafisi, Calvert etc. (most of whom didn’t come here because Bob is a good recruiter btw.) as a PWO it means he’s good. It’s not like the Sark/Ty years where you have to beat out a FCS level guy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It does matter but it's not the end all be all as Ulofoshio proves. And you and Sub K and others that obsess over it are creepy and embarassing to observe. You need self awareness to realize this, which you...lackbackthepack said:To act like recruiting doesn’t matter is the biggest Boise State/BYU etc. way of thinking ever. Fuck that, I want us to look like Bama (which for the most part we do btw), not a fucking WAC school.
Ulo is here, Bob is his coach, and Bob gets credit for developing him into a very good LB. I wish he would have played sooner, but he had to earn it.
Who gives a fuck why Heimuli, Calvert, and all the other LB’s came to UW? They are here. I wouldn’t have minded Bob getting fired but I’ve also said it will turn out fine.
We have a bunch of LB’s, they seem to be developing and improving. We are already pretty good at LB and will continue to get better. We have had good LB play before last year.
Special teams has been up and down, but you’re foolish if you think Bob is the only coach on special teams. They all pitch in. We broke NCAA records for punt return TD’s with BG as the special teams coach. I know Pete coached the returners, but there were obviously good return calls that were executed well.
Bob has been a part of this defensive staff for years and has a good track record as an assistant coach. He’s not a great recruiter but some here put way too much credence in believing liking an assistant coach is the main reason recruits choose a school. It’s one of many factors.
I fucking love Kwat, but giving him credit for Smalls and giving Bob no credit for getting Kaho (not Bob’s fault that he left) or Heimuli doesn’t make sense.
I understand some of the heat Bob gets, but the exaggerations and fictional, selective bullshit is stupid.
And I wrote a Tequilla length post when Race and PGOS are correct. The head coach is the one that really matters.
You said Jayden McDaniels would be player of the year and a top 5 pick. You pretended like Salvon Ahmed was great and were one of the idiots that said BBK sucked. You recently said Jackson Kirkland sucks. You just had your bullshit Sirmon opinions a few weeks ago. How’s Dylan’s dick taste? You made excuses for Ty Jones and Asa Turner this week. I could go on.
You’re a TBS idiot that chooses which guys you like and ride that out to the end. You’ve been terrible at it, but you do keep coming back. How many tweets you sent our today Fudge? You over 100 yet? -
Swaye said:RoadDawg55 said:
Fuck off for thinking it was a miracle that we held Penn State to 35. That was Lake’s first game calling the D btw. We played like shit that day. You were doing somewhat well recently. Penn State was really good (lost two games by a total of 4 points) and we came out and played like shit in the first half.backthepack said:
We lost those games because we couldn’t physically matchup. We started Myles Bryant at outside corner, Bowman (he is pretty good now actually)/Tevis, 0 DL depth outside of Greg and Vita, Austin Joyner at Nickel, JoJo at safety etc. against Miles Sanders, Deasean Hamilton, Saquan Barkely, and Mike Geisicki and we only gave up 35 points in the Fiesta Bowl because Pete K is a wizard. Now imagine this defense against that offense...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is why you are a fucking idiotbackthepack said:
Your anti-recruiting stance is pretty retarded. It’s the reason we lost the CFP game, Fiesta, and Rose Bowl games before they even started.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You guys keep hating his LB coaching and besides 2019 he produces good at worst units and remains on the staffNeighbor2972 said:PGOS starts these Bob Gregory threads every 3 months and it's the same lame argument every time.
The fact he annoys the shit out of the recruiting obsessed irritating posters is the cherry on top for me.
Big Bob fan
We lost those games because of our head coach. Pete.
Jesus H Christ
Browning was bad. I would say little 3 star try hard Trace McSorely outplaying the highly touted Jake Browning was a key to Pedo State winning the game. Pettis was hurt and the team had no WR’s.
What’s your fucking point anyways? That it would have been cool to have some better players in that game? No shit FudgePack. We’ve lost other games to PAC 12 teams with a lot less talent than us. Recruiting isn’t always the answer to why we lose a game.
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As a longtime lurker, I can confidently say that BTP has one of the worst batting percentages of anyone on the boards. He's almost as reliably wrong as the TSIO guys are with their coordinator evaluations...
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Eddie,
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Great player. Hits hard. Competitive. Pisses purple and deficates gold. Tough 1 star from the frozen tundra of Elk Knuckle, Siberia. Overcame the loss of a leg to become the best LB in the cuntry. Not actually black according to some since he is Nigerian. Walked on campus day 1 an allstar and hasnt been coached up since. DAWG legend.Gladstone said:Eddie,
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The only time I ever really got angry with BBK was against Penn State he wasn’t set and looking at the sideline when Barkley ripped an 80 yard TD run to his side of the field. But it was Barkley so there’s that.BCoveysLifeInsPolicy said:
I never understood the BBK hate either. My best guess is that people were upset he wasn't an Azeem clone, and that due to his smaller size, he couldn't send the other team's rushers backward on every play and get a TFL every time they thought he should have.RoadDawg55 said:Imagine thinking BBK sucked. I remember wondering what the fuck some of you were watching. The guy was a playmaker and a great college football player.
Forces tons of fumbles, runs over dudes returning picks, has a TFL against Bama, and a sack vs Ohio State. But he only played good against the weak teams!
Oh yeah, had 176 tackles, All American, Pac 12 DPOY. Awards and stat lines slow, weak white guys get.
Watching his college highlight film on Youtube reminded me of what a baller he was. He was fast and was always around the ball.
And he wasn’t good only in his senior season. He was sacking Vernon Adams as a freshman and never redshirted even tho he was only 200 pounds.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFTUrm5sgU -
Gregory would be an easy one to upgrade. He gets decent grades for coaching and development but failing grade at building a complete LB corps.
2019 was just the disastrous culmination of what he built. In his fifth season as UW'S LB coach he had middling RS freshmen, Kyler Manu, a promising but injured true freshman, and a walk on who he was reluctant to play ahead of completely inept upperclassmen that represented his career at UW from 2014-2019. It doesn't represent a single down year, but a five year failure to establish a talented and competent unit.
Six years in UW has one...one...one good LB. People pine for Heimuli and Calvert...again a couple of freshmen...because there's nobody else on the depth chart showing much promise. There are no good upperclassmen and the second and third year guys, aside from the walkon he stumbled into, all suck or need more time. It takes more than one good LB on the team and more than two good players recruited and developed over six years or the position coach is due some criticism. If the situation isn't on Gregory, who is it on?
