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The California Governor's mansion is for sermon seekers

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,840
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Gavin Osteen delivers the good word.



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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,189 Founders Club
    Aren't you one who has faith in masks?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    dnc said:

    Gavin Osteen delivers the good word.



    Congrats! @BillFOXLA on having such a fab relationship with @GovGav ‘’s publicist!
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    Parler and pitchforks, baby.

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    PurpleThrobber said:

    Parler and pitchforks, baby.

    @Pitchfork51

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,189 Founders Club
    The Nazis get thrown out the collaborators pay the price. Same as always



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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Parler and pitchforks and joobs, baby.

    @Pitchfork51

    Crisped up on his behalf.

    IKW
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I’m hearing the Showers at the Train Station are more like a luxurious Spa
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I had lots of people tell me to fuck off. I have thick skin. But if you had done something illegal it certainly reduced your chances of being let go if that was within my power to do so. Assholes don't prosper in those situations.

    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order. Misdemeanors and down are a police officers discretion and decision on what to do. Felonies are not. Few if any felonies fall into I won't go there territory. Lots of misdemeanor and lower stuff does. There were things I wouldn't enforce. I let lots of people go for things like weed, alcohol in public or traffic violations etc. It was my decision.

    When I ran things I encouraged those under me to do the same. Cities can come up with some really stupid shitty laws.

    I've told superiors to basically fuck off as well. One I did exactly that. I was close to retirement anyway but his idea was so stupid it actually could have gotten officers hurt and he was pretty insistent.

    If you think the government can constitutionally tell you who can be in your home you are the problem.
    That's a good answer.
    agree
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:


    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I think the point is, being told to go bust up a printing press would be an unconstitutional order and thus illegal to carry out.

    In my opinion, through this recent policing debate, the legislative branch has gotten off far too easily. Myriad bullshit laws mean myriad bullshit probable cause.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:


    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I call bullshit on that. It was indeed my job. I decided if I had probable cause to stop people, search and arrest every day. That is deciding on what's constitutional by it's very definition. If I'm working a dope case I don't search without a warrant unless I have exigent circumstances, entry would be made the location frozen but no search is made until you get the warrant. We decided all the fucking time what was and wasn't constitutional. A judge would look at it later and he would also decide. FYI I never had an exigent circumstances entry overturned and those dopers had big money for big lawyers. Never.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:


    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I call bullshit on that. It was indeed my job. I decided if I had probable cause to stop people, search and arrest every day. That is deciding on what's constitutional by it's very definition. If I'm working a dope case I don't search without a warrant unless I have exigent circumstances, entry would be made the location frozen but no search is made until you get the warrant. We decided all the fucking time what was and wasn't constitutional. A judge would look at it later and he would also decide. FYI I never had an exigent circumstances entry overturned and those dopers had big money for big lawyers. Never.
    You're talking about a different scenario. Not pushing a search when you don't have a warrant is following the letter of the law. Unilaterally deciding not to enforce a law because you yourself deem it unconstitutional is going outside the bounds of your job.

    But I'm being intentionally obtuse, I fully support the use of discretion by law enforcement. It's just funny to see someone like you who thrives in absolutes to all of a sudden start inserting that discretion.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    Sledog said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:


    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    I'm pro the government can fuck off and I'll go where I want, see who I want with as many people as I want!

    I agree but this is kind of an interesting take for someone who gets paid by the government to tell other people what they can do.
    One swears to uphold the constitution. I did that and still do. HTH
    Sure.gif

    You arrest citizens far more than governmental representatives and you know it.

    I don't have a problem with what you do, but the "government can fuck off" talk is tuff guy bullshit coming from someone who has a real problem if a citizen wants to tell you or others representing the government like you by wearing the uniform you wear to fuck off.
    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I call bullshit on that. It was indeed my job. I decided if I had probable cause to stop people, search and arrest every day. That is deciding on what's constitutional by it's very definition. If I'm working a dope case I don't search without a warrant unless I have exigent circumstances, entry would be made the location frozen but no search is made until you get the warrant. We decided all the fucking time what was and wasn't constitutional. A judge would look at it later and he would also decide. FYI I never had an exigent circumstances entry overturned and those dopers had big money for big lawyers. Never.
    You're talking about a different scenario. Not pushing a search when you don't have a warrant is following the letter of the law. Unilaterally deciding not to enforce a law because you yourself deem it unconstitutional is going outside the bounds of your job.

    But I'm being intentionally obtuse, I fully support the use of discretion by law enforcement. It's just funny to see someone like you who thrives in absolutes to all of a sudden start inserting that discretion.
    Sled had a very good answer to that, give credit where dew.
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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,793 Swaye's Wigwam
    I think the combo of the Vid, lockdowns, and elections has gotten everyone a little on edge.

    Step back all you maskholes that disagree with me
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