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Too many words for dumbline brad to comprehend.Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
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And owned all the slaves. Thanks for playing.Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
And here we are. -
How'd you get your head so far up your ass?Sledog said:
And owned all the slaves. Thanks for playing.Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
And here we are.
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Fascism is literally the marriage of planned economies and nationalism. It rejects the destruction of nationalism that communism proports. It is "far right" only if your a devout socialist and don't realize there's such a thing as a free economy further to the right.Kingdome_Urinals said:
"Center left" doesn't really fit at all. The Nazis promoted central government "collectivist" programs to stimulate the economy and put people to work, but so did basically every other national government, including the USA, that didn't want to completely collapse and lose all legitimacy.UW_Doog_Bot said:except for all the fascists.
People forget that the Nazis were center left. People forget that.
The Nazis were far right in their cultural politics especially the whole racism and anti-semitism thing. They were also very reactionary in terms of gender, sexuality, and in policing public behavior. That is not "center left."
You have to disentangle economic policies from other political factors. The distinctive features of Nazism was its intense right wing politics. -
Pinochet is probably the world's only notable modern far right dictator. Maybe the Shah of Iran if you'd like to dig into it.
You can argue that Italian Fascism was "center right" if you like. Nazi Fascism was center left especially as they were able to further "implement" it. Socialized "healthcare" anyone?
You don't get to just hand wave and say, "just ignore all that economics stuff" and relabel people left vs. right while ignoring central ideology. Thatsnothowthisworks.gif -
If racism and anti-Semitism is a "far right" thing how do you explain the fact that the only place you'll find overt and accepted anti-Semitism and racism today is all on the left? Al Sharpton, Omar, Farrahkan and the members of the CBC that support him aren't on the right, they are out and proud leftist. The left is the only group I know of today that wants to use the power of the government to reward and or punish people based solely on their skin color. How can that be when you claim racism is all on the the right?Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
And here we are. -
@GeorgeOrwellDawg, true?UW_Doog_Bot said:Pinochet is probably the world's only notable modern far right dictator. Maybe the Shah of Iran if you'd like to dig into it.
You can argue that Italian Fascism was "center right" if you like. Nazi Fascism was center left especially as they were able to further "implement" it. Socialized "healthcare" anyone?
You don't get to just hand wave and say, "just ignore all that economics stuff" and relabel people left vs. right while ignoring central ideology. Thatsnothowthisworks.gif
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Btw, this is an incredible bad read of history and the facts. Wallace, a Rat until his death, captured most of the Southern vote well after LBJ started enforcing the Civil Rights acts. The South started trending toward Republicans with Ike, but the Rats still had a strangle hold on the majority until 1972. Carter recaptured the the South in 1976 and Clinton in 1992 was able to win many Southern states.Kingdome_Urinals said:
How wrong you are. You are probably referring to the fact that southern whites were almost uniformly Democratic party voters back in the 19th and for much of the 20th century. But that was not a "left wing" party. The old Democrats valued local governance and feared the growth of the federal government and were generally opposed to public works projects, etc.. By contrast the Federalists, Whigs, and later the Republicans valued a stronger central government and generally held more enlightened attitudes toward the rights of human beings, aka stopping slavery.Goduckies said:Racism isn't a far right thing jr... the left is the party of the KKK with Robert KKK Byrd etc.
AKA using a strong federal government (btw, the US military is part of the federal government) to kick the ass of the South.
As soon as LBJ (a Democrat) enforced school desegregation in the South and enforced the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Southern whites began to switch to the Republican party which was much more conservative about racial issues.
And here we are.
