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Official final Debate game thread

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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,512 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    The left is convinced Biden won and Trump only lies

    The modern left is full of idiots.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,539 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    ReignMan said:

    Chris Wallace needs to Pack up his toys and go to CNN. What debate did he watch!!

    Anyone trying to score that debate as anything other than a MASSIVE Trump win is being willfully ignorant or has an agenda.
    Why do you hate George Stephanopolopoloopls?
    Short people got no reason to live.

    Don't want no short people 'round here.

  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,424
    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    The left is convinced Biden won and Trump only lies

    The modern left is full of idiots.
    They’re not idiots, their intelligence is drowned out by fear and groupthink

    They are the “good germans”
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,512 Founders Club

    I thought Trump "won", whatever that means, because despite @Tequilla's misconceptions, nobody was going to be swayed by either man 12 days prior to the election. Biden looked older than he ever has.

    With the theatrics cut down due to the mic muting (which helped Trump because it prevented him from caving in to his worst impulses), both frankly looked awful when they were discussing actual policy. Neither man could string together a two minute segment without getting distracted and rambling off onto some other tangent.

    I do wonder about this. How many late deciders can there be? It's been ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIM for 4 years. You should pretty much know by now if you are for or against what he's selling.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited October 2020
    Swaye said:

    I thought Trump "won", whatever that means, because despite @Tequilla's misconceptions, nobody was going to be swayed by either man 12 days prior to the election. Biden looked older than he ever has.

    With the theatrics cut down due to the mic muting (which helped Trump because it prevented him from caving in to his worst impulses), both frankly looked awful when they were discussing actual policy. Neither man could string together a two minute segment without getting distracted and rambling off onto some other tangent.

    I do wonder about this. How many late deciders can there be? It's been ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIM for 4 years. You should pretty much know by now if you are for or against what he's selling.
    Pre-game debate @BretBaier FOX had Pollster Frank Luntz on who said there were only 4% undecided before the debate.
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    Voting for Trump in my county is like yelling in the wind basically. Hillary beat Don by 210k votes last time around. It's quite possibly going to be an even bigger margin this time.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,023

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    Voting for Trump in my county is like yelling in the wind basically. Hillary beat Don by 210k votes last time around. It's quite possibly going to be an even bigger margin this time.
    Sad!!
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,512 Founders Club

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    Voting for Trump in my county is like yelling in the wind basically. Hillary beat Don by 210k votes last time around. It's quite possibly going to be an even bigger margin this time.
    Don't you have 211K dead people you can do ballots for? Come on man! Get out the deceased vote!
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,871 Founders Club

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    Voting for Trump in my county is like yelling in the wind basically. Hillary beat Don by 210k votes last time around. It's quite possibly going to be an even bigger margin this time.

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    Voting for Trump in my county is like yelling in the wind basically. Hillary beat Don by 210k votes last time around. It's quite possibly going to be an even bigger margin this time.
    Fuck, when the civil war hits you'll have tons of fun
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,459 Swaye's Wigwam

    I thought Trump "won", whatever that means, because despite @Tequilla's misconceptions, nobody was going to be swayed by either man 12 days prior to the election. Biden looked older than he ever has.

    With the theatrics cut down due to the mic muting (which helped Trump because it prevented him from caving in to his worst impulses), both frankly looked awful when they were discussing actual policy. Neither man could string together a two minute segment without getting distracted and rambling off onto some other tangent.

    To your point, Trump doesn't need to eloquently speak on policy. Pence can do that.

    Trump is the President because of his attack, attack, attack mindset.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,981 Swaye's Wigwam

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    So much this. Joe needs people to turn out for him. If parts of his base erode like the inner city black vote or the radical left he's toast.

    1994 crime bill and super predators probably just got Googled a lot.

    Joe just flip flopped on fracking again.

    It won't flip votes but it will discourage voters he needs to turn up en masse.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,846 Founders Club

    Undecided on candidate yeah. But many that are on the fence about voting at all

    So much this. Joe needs people to turn out for him. If parts of his base erode like the inner city black vote or the radical left he's toast.

    1994 crime bill and super predators probably just got Googled a lot.

    Joe just flip flopped on fracking again.

    It won't flip votes but it will discourage voters he needs to turn up en masse.
    Joe did everything possible last night to keep the base home. From blaming Obama to shitting on AOC Plus 3 and the Green New Deal which he is against or for depending on the day
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    edited October 2020

    I thought Trump "won", whatever that means, because despite @Tequilla's misconceptions, nobody was going to be swayed by either man 12 days prior to the election. Biden looked older than he ever has.

    With the theatrics cut down due to the mic muting (which helped Trump because it prevented him from caving in to his worst impulses), both frankly looked awful when they were discussing actual policy. Neither man could string together a two minute segment without getting distracted and rambling off onto some other tangent.

    To your point, Trump doesn't need to eloquently speak on policy. Pence can do that.

    Trump is the President because of his attack, attack, attack mindset.
    You're right that that ends up being the case, and frankly Biden/Harris can make the same argument. And maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer my candidates for the most important office in the world to be able to at least marginally articulate the various policies they're putting forward. And from my grading, both guys fell well short of that already low bar. But it's been obvious for awhile that policy coherence is not a huge piece of criteria for voters, so my grading doesn't really mean shit.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,501

    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    The left is convinced Biden won and Trump only lies

    The modern left is full of idiots.
    They’re not idiots, their intelligence is drowned out by fear and groupthink

    They are the “good germans”
    The modern left has three flavors:

    1. Affluent white guilt cocktail party libs
    2. All about the feels/mean orange man/save the world naive fucks
    3. Radicals

    Problem is 1 and 2 are so deep into their shit, they can't see they are being played by Group 3.

    That's actually a really good cut at the categories.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,512 Founders Club

    I thought Trump "won", whatever that means, because despite @Tequilla's misconceptions, nobody was going to be swayed by either man 12 days prior to the election. Biden looked older than he ever has.

    With the theatrics cut down due to the mic muting (which helped Trump because it prevented him from caving in to his worst impulses), both frankly looked awful when they were discussing actual policy. Neither man could string together a two minute segment without getting distracted and rambling off onto some other tangent.

    Eh, somewhat disagree. That's a fair description of Biden all night save for one or two points. Trump was much more articulate. Yeah, he wanders into the "I'm hearing" and "the most beautiful [fill in the blank]". Of course, neither has any specifics on healthcare because it remains one of our most intractible issues as a country.

    But overall Trump came off much better. When he tones down just a couple of notches it does him so many favors. He's confident in what he's about to say and he just says it. Much better on his feet too.

    Agree nobody's changing votes at this 11th hour; but Trump came off more put together. Biden is an unmitigated disaster as a candidate.
    This.
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