NFL this year

CuntWaffle

Probably more wide open than it has ever been. There are probably 10-12 teams who could legit win the Super Bowl.

dnc

Disagree.

Chiefs
Ravens
Titans
Steelers
Seahawks
Packers
Bucs
Patriots (just because I never write off Bellichick)

That's the list.

TSIO for everybody else.

dnc

If the Bears pick up a real QB at the deadline you could maybe add them to the list.

CuntWaffle

Saints and 49ers should be taken seriously too.

dnc

CuntWaffle said:

Saints and 49ers should be taken seriously too.

Can't win a SB without a QB

CuntWaffle

dnc said:

CuntWaffle said:

Saints and 49ers should be taken seriously too.

Can't win a SB without a QB

Trent Dilfer disagrees

dnc

CuntWaffle said:

dnc said:

CuntWaffle said:

Saints and 49ers should be taken seriously too.

Can't win a SB without a QB

Trent Dilfer disagrees

The rules aren't close to the same as they were 20 years ago.

You gotta be able to score in the modern NFL. LA and SF have been close with the perfect mix of offensive genius to mask QB deficiencies but they're not getting close now the the NFL isn't calling offensive holding.

It's just too much of an advantage for elite QB's.

BleachedAnusDawg

There are maybe 6-7 good teams. The rest are total crap. I would take the Pats off of DNC's list, otherwise agree.

haie

Chiefs repeat except they don't need to come back because they're plungering Green Bay.

Rogers forces a trade to San Francisco after the season.

dnc

BleachedAnusDawg said:

There are maybe 6-7 good teams. The rest are total crap. I would take the Pats off of DNC's list, otherwise agree.

You're almost assuredly correct. I'm a well documented Cam Newton doubter, I just never count Bellichick out.

whlinder

Fuck you guys.

If you can't see that going 1-15 with a ridiculous team name in the most hilarious way possible is more enjoyable than winning then I can't help you.

RaceBannon

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

BleachedAnusDawg

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

With Paul Allen gone I'm curious to see the long-term for the franchise. Wilson carries them for at least another 5-6 years at a high level, probably. Carroll can't hang on that long. Schneider, not really sure what his endgame is. He has many years left.

dnc

BleachedAnusDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

With Paul Allen gone I'm curious to see the long-term for the franchise. Wilson carries them for at least another 5-6 years at a high level, probably. Carroll can't hang on that long. Schneider, not really sure what his endgame is. He has many years left.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Carroll goes another 5. Ownership stability is a real question though.

BleachedAnusDawg

dnc said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

With Paul Allen gone I'm curious to see the long-term for the franchise. Wilson carries them for at least another 5-6 years at a high level, probably. Carroll can't hang on that long. Schneider, not really sure what his endgame is. He has many years left.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Carroll goes another 5. Ownership stability is a real question though.

Yeah I can't figure out if Carroll would be a guy who wants to go out on top, or if he just loves the grind too much to walk away without being forced to. As long as Wilson is around there's always a chance Pete stays. The main thing that makes me think he steps away sooner than later is his contract situation seems kinda weird. I expected he would've signed a longer-term deal. If Wilson leaves he probably wants to be able to get out as quickly as possible after, though, so he can coach a winner somewhere else versus rebuilding in Seattle when he's 70-something years old.

dnc

BleachedAnusDawg said:

dnc said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

With Paul Allen gone I'm curious to see the long-term for the franchise. Wilson carries them for at least another 5-6 years at a high level, probably. Carroll can't hang on that long. Schneider, not really sure what his endgame is. He has many years left.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Carroll goes another 5. Ownership stability is a real question though.

Yeah I can't figure out if Carroll would be a guy who wants to go out on top, or if he just loves the grind too much to walk away without being forced to. As long as Wilson is around there's always a chance Pete stays. The main thing that makes me think he steps away sooner than later is his contract situation seems kinda weird. I expected he would've signed a longer-term deal. If Wilson leaves he probably wants to be able to get out as quickly as possible after, though, so he can coach a winner somewhere else versus rebuilding in Seattle when he's 70-something years old.

Yeah I doubt Carroll would outlast Russ in Seattle.

I can't see the Hawks ever letting Russ go though. I think they'll continue to pay him at the top of the QB salary structure and he'll continue to outplay his contracts. At least for longer than Pete will last.

CuntWaffle

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

Russ has potential to win 1 or 2 more. He will never be Brady (obviously) but he has potential to be top 5-10 all time when said and done.

dnc

CuntWaffle said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

Russ has potential to win 1 or 2 more. He will never be Brady (obviously) but he has potential to be top 5-10 all time when said and done.

He's going to be top 5 as long as he wins one more.

greenblood

dnc said:

If the Bears pick up a real QB at the deadline you could maybe add them to the list.

They haven't had a real QB in over 50 years. What makes you think this year could be different?

RaceBannon

dnc said:

CuntWaffle said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

Russ has potential to win 1 or 2 more. He will never be Brady (obviously) but he has potential to be top 5-10 all time when said and done.

He's going to be top 5 as long as he wins one more.

Russ too high

2 rings isn't top 5

dnc

RaceBannon said:

dnc said:

CuntWaffle said:

RaceBannon said:

I like to give Russ shit so @dnc will bully me but I really do think it is a shame he doesn't have two rings already. I look at Aaron Rodgers the best ever allegedly with his one ring and I just roll my eyes. Yes the Packers fucked him with McCarthy and no defense but the Hawks have done something similar to Russ. Like we have Russ and sell out the stadium and win 10 every year so fuck off

Brady got three rings early and then 10 years later got three rings late. Would love to see the Hawks get a couple more. When Russ is gone they are really going to suck again

Russ has potential to win 1 or 2 more. He will never be Brady (obviously) but he has potential to be top 5-10 all time when said and done.

He's going to be top 5 as long as he wins one more.

Russ too high

2 rings isn't top 5

There's literally only four QBs with more than two SB wins and two of them are Terry Bradshaw and Troy Aikman.

My top 5 atm

Brady
Montana
Manning (Peyton)
Elway
Rodgers

Love to see your top 5.