Seattle becoming Detroit

Southerndawg

Team Blue takes another one down.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/seattle-economy-progressives

YellowSnow

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

UW_Doog_Bot

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Maybe, but it sure already is looking like New York of the 70's and 80's going bankrupt. Just give Sawant tim to get her guysm in there.

BleachedAnusDawg

Too many lefty's will continue to move here for Seattle to ever become Detroit. It's just past the point of no return in becoming a liberal elitist playground where you can either afford million dollar-plus mortgages or live in subsidized housing. There will be zero middle class in the city in another 15-20 years.

RaceBannon

Seattle could lose half the population and be better off than now because of location. Detroit had industry and not much else

HHusky

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

It does suck in many ways. I consider leaving. I do sense some backlash in sentiment, but if we all do a Dori Monson and do our bitching from Shoreline (or Bothell, or Kent, etc.) instead of staying, who do you think will be voting in Seattle?

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

It does suck in many ways. I consider leaving. I do sense some backlash in sentiment, but if we all do a Dori Monson and do our bitching from Shoreline (or Bothell, or Kent, etc.) instead of staying, who do you think will be voting in Seattle?

At this point what difference does it make?

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

It does suck in many ways. I consider leaving. I do sense some backlash in sentiment, but if we all do a Dori Monson and do our bitching from Shoreline (or Bothell, or Kent, etc.) instead of staying, who do you think will be voting in Seattle?

At this point what difference does it make?

I don’t view it as my duty to stay. But this has been a nice place to live for most of my life. I don’t think it’s doomed, but I do wonder where the tipping point is.

BleachedAnusDawg

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

It does suck in many ways. I consider leaving. I do sense some backlash in sentiment, but if we all do a Dori Monson and do our bitching from Shoreline (or Bothell, or Kent, etc.) instead of staying, who do you think will be voting in Seattle?

At this point what difference does it make?

I don’t view it as my duty to stay. But this has been a nice place to live for most of my life. I don’t think it’s doomed, but I do wonder where the tipping point is.

The people moving to Seattle are either going there for a tech job or because they actually like the politics of the city. If it ever changes course it will take at least a generation at this point, probably two.

YellowSnow

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Maybe, but it sure already is looking like New York of the 70's and 80's going bankrupt. Just give Sawant tim to get her guysm in there.

Getting her re-called would be a big win for the good people of Seattle.

I can see some version of 70s and 80s NYC urban decline but it's not like the great cities of the West aren't all looking at this. LA, PDX, SFO, and SEA are all looking more shithole-esque.

Even in the 70s and 80s NYC was still the capital of the world. Hell some New Yorkers have been excited to get some of that grit back. Fucked up if you ask me, but still.

NorthwestFresh

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Too many lefty's will continue to move here for Seattle to ever become Detroit. It's just past the point of no return in becoming a liberal elitist playground where you can either afford million dollar-plus mortgages or live in subsidized housing. There will be zero middle class in the city in another 15-20 years.

Seattle and Portland both have sustainable modern industries and are both aesthetically beautiful places to live for either to ever turn into Detroit or Cleveland. Those cities are just ugly and there is no reason to live in either when things collapse.

RaceBannon

You can get a SFR under 50 grand in Detroit so there is that

YellowSnow

RaceBannon said:

You can get a SFR under 50 grand in Detroit so there is that

PurpleThrobber

As every individual, therefore, endeavours as much as he can both to employ his capital in the support of domestic industry, and so to direct that industry that its produce may be of the greatest value; every individual necessarily labours to render the annual revenue of the society as great as he can. He generally, indeed, neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was no part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good. It is an affectation, indeed, not very common among merchants, and very few words need be employed in dissuading them from it.



tldr translation: When people live in shitholes, they move to non-shitholes and take their money with them.

It's almost like an invisible hand is guiding them or something....

PostGameOrangeSlices

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Yellow, first off fren, I like you.

But I'm pretty sure you voted Dem early and often at the state and local levels and you reaped the rewards.

Moving to Bend like every other west of the mountains lib that enjoys the outdoors is humorous and par for the course.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, don't make the same fucking mistake and turn Bend into Eugene.

Despite everything in Seattle I am blessed to have a good techish job and I enjoy living here, for the most part. Maybe I'll move one day, but until then I'll be fighting the good fight and will vote straight R. Who knows, the pendulum might even swing a little more towards sanity?

Goduckies

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Too many lefty's will continue to move here for Seattle to ever become Detroit. It's just past the point of no return in becoming a liberal elitist playground where you can either afford million dollar-plus mortgages or live in subsidized housing. There will be zero middle class in the city in another 15-20 years.

Aka San Francisco

YellowSnow

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Yellow, first off fren, I like you.

But I'm pretty sure you voted Dem early and often at the state and local levels and you reaped the rewards.

Moving to Bend like every other west of the mountains lib that enjoys the outdoors is humorous and par for the course.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, don't make the same fucking mistake and turn Bend into Eugene.

Despite everything in Seattle I am blessed to have a good techish job and I enjoy living here, for the most part. Maybe I'll move one day, but until then I'll be fighting the good fight and will vote straight R. Who knows, the pendulum might even swing a little more towards sanity?

Well, fren, in the 25 years of and on that I have been a registered voter in Seattle, I voted GOP in every Federal, State and Local election with one notable exception- i.e., not voting for Trump in 2016. So I didn't reap shit. If you recall some of my earlier posts @PostGameOrangeSlices I was stuck in Seattle Public School hell waging a lonely fight again transgender pronoun studies for kindergartners and official BLM week in school.

My wife and I are fortunate to be able to keep Seattle based income and live in Bend. It was a no brainier once this became a reality. It is overrun with California libs, but in comparison to Seattle it feels like Texas. We're in the most liberal part of town an instead of every other house having a BLM yard sign like my street in Seattle, maybe only 1 in 15 do here. That's progress if you ask me.

LebamDawg

YellowSnow said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Yellow, first off fren, I like you.

But I'm pretty sure you voted Dem early and often at the state and local levels and you reaped the rewards.

Moving to Bend like every other west of the mountains lib that enjoys the outdoors is humorous and par for the course.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, don't make the same fucking mistake and turn Bend into Eugene.

Despite everything in Seattle I am blessed to have a good techish job and I enjoy living here, for the most part. Maybe I'll move one day, but until then I'll be fighting the good fight and will vote straight R. Who knows, the pendulum might even swing a little more towards sanity?

Well, fren, in the 25 years of and on that I have been a registered voter in Seattle, I voted GOP in every Federal, State and Local election with one notable exception- i.e., not voting for Trump in 2016. So I didn't reap shit. If you recall some of my earlier posts @PostGameOrangeSlices I was stuck in Seattle Public School hell waging a lonely fight again transgender pronoun studies for kindergartners and official BLM week in school.

My wife and I are fortunate to be able to keep Seattle based income and live in Bend. It was a no brainier once this became a reality. It is overrun with California libs, but in comparison to Seattle it feels like Texas. We're in the most liberal part of town an instead of every other house having a BLM yard sign like my street in Seattle, maybe only 1 in 15 do here. That's progress if you ask me.

Give Bend one more federal election cycle - they will catch up. The school district will not be far behind Seattle/Washington in its efforts to teach porno at an early age

PostGameOrangeSlices

YellowSnow said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Yellow, first off fren, I like you.

But I'm pretty sure you voted Dem early and often at the state and local levels and you reaped the rewards.

Moving to Bend like every other west of the mountains lib that enjoys the outdoors is humorous and par for the course.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, don't make the same fucking mistake and turn Bend into Eugene.

Despite everything in Seattle I am blessed to have a good techish job and I enjoy living here, for the most part. Maybe I'll move one day, but until then I'll be fighting the good fight and will vote straight R. Who knows, the pendulum might even swing a little more towards sanity?

Well, fren, in the 25 years of and on that I have been a registered voter in Seattle, I voted GOP in every Federal, State and Local election with one notable exception- i.e., not voting for Trump in 2016. So I didn't reap shit. If you recall some of my earlier posts @PostGameOrangeSlices I was stuck in Seattle Public School hell waging a lonely fight again transgender pronoun studies for kindergartners and official BLM week in school.

My wife and I are fortunate to be able to keep Seattle based income and live in Bend. It was a no brainier once this became a reality. It is overrun with California libs, but in comparison to Seattle it feels like Texas. We're in the most liberal part of town an instead of every other house having a BLM yard sign like my street in Seattle, maybe only 1 in 15 do here. That's progress if you ask me.

Fair enough! I missed that thread but sounds par for the course.

Godspeed

YellowSnow

LebamDawg said:

YellowSnow said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

YellowSnow said:

Seattle sucks. I voted with my feet and left. It's not going to become Detroit though.

Yellow, first off fren, I like you.

But I'm pretty sure you voted Dem early and often at the state and local levels and you reaped the rewards.

Moving to Bend like every other west of the mountains lib that enjoys the outdoors is humorous and par for the course.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, don't make the same fucking mistake and turn Bend into Eugene.

Despite everything in Seattle I am blessed to have a good techish job and I enjoy living here, for the most part. Maybe I'll move one day, but until then I'll be fighting the good fight and will vote straight R. Who knows, the pendulum might even swing a little more towards sanity?

Well, fren, in the 25 years of and on that I have been a registered voter in Seattle, I voted GOP in every Federal, State and Local election with one notable exception- i.e., not voting for Trump in 2016. So I didn't reap shit. If you recall some of my earlier posts @PostGameOrangeSlices I was stuck in Seattle Public School hell waging a lonely fight again transgender pronoun studies for kindergartners and official BLM week in school.

My wife and I are fortunate to be able to keep Seattle based income and live in Bend. It was a no brainier once this became a reality. It is overrun with California libs, but in comparison to Seattle it feels like Texas. We're in the most liberal part of town an instead of every other house having a BLM yard sign like my street in Seattle, maybe only 1 in 15 do here. That's progress if you ask me.

Give Bend one more federal election cycle - they will catch up. The school district will not be far behind Seattle/Washington in its efforts to teach porno at an early age

So what city of 100,000 near the mountains in the Western USA isn't fairly liberal? SLC? Ask @89ute . Missoula is getting more liberal. Boise I guess but it doesn't appeal to me. And living the guns n' religion compound lifestyle like @PurpleThrobber ain't going work for us.

RaceBannon

Temecula