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Hawt Motorcycle Talk

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  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,882
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    BTW, I just got a text from Ron. He has a 2018 Triump Street Triple RS in Seattle (he lives in Nashville) that he wants to sell. If you know anyone who might be in the market for something like that, let me know. The bike has only 1200 miles on it.
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,880
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    Doing the school with a rental bike is definitely the way to go. Modern traction control makes a bike almost uncrashable, and Kieth found his crash rate went way down even as the power of their fleet bikes nearly doubled.

    I met Kieth Code once. Weird dude. Fancies himself a bit of a guru. That being said, his books are both great, although his methods are dated. If you've read either Twist of the Wrist book, there's a ton of great information, but his cornering method is all about braking straight up and down and then gassing through the turn to use the fatter rear tire for traction. Modern bikes are designed to bury the fork to the apex, flick over, drive out. Trail braking. I'd be curious to hear if his training has changed to reflect this new paradigm.

    I do almost all of my track days with Track Time. Great organization. It's the most costly local group by far, but they limit their group sizes to the perfect number, so it's never a shit show like it sometimes is with OPRT or 2-Fast. The Ridge is such a fun track to ride, and we're really lucky to have it here. Pacific is fun in its own way, but there are a few corners you just don't want to crash in...

    No matter what, you will absolutely become a better rider at a track day. It took me until the second turn of my second lap on track to have my world turned completely upside down. I went out for a warmup lap, and as I returned to the front straight for the first time, a control rider passed me (effortlessly...) and tapped his tail to tell me to follow. I told myself, "This is going to be scary, but if he can do it, you can do it," and I nutted up and followed him right through the big Turn 2 left sweeper. Mind. Blown. Found out I'd only leaned a bike halfway over up to that point, much to my surprise and embarrassment. Later lessons I learned on track all involved how stable a bike can be if you trust it: Tail wagging on the brakes? No big deal. Tail wagging AND front end hopping on the brakes? Just stick with it, no big deal. Clip a curb at Portland International while leaned over and have your whole bike thrown a foot to the side underneath you? No big deal, just stay on the gas. It really is a whole 'nother world.
    PurpleBazeWilliams3
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,880
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    You assholes zooming around out here in Granite Falls drive me fucking crazy.

    Only did that once before hanging up the street riding. Amazing road! My buddy and I, he on an FZ1 and me on a CBR1000RR, once tried doing the whole Mountain Loop Highway, only to find it turned to extremely potholed gravel with a lot of downed trees. After several miles of standing up on a CBR like it's a motocross bike and railing through the dirt, weaving around downed trees, we finally came to a downed tree that blocked the whole road. We'd been having so much fun on this unexpected adventure that we actually scouted the bushes on the side of the road to work our way around, then briefly considered lifting each bike over the logs and carrying on our way, but sanity prevailed and we turned around.

    Granite Falls is an area I take people who are new to Western Washington just to blow them away with the views. Cool fucking city!°
    Swaye
  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,882
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    Thanks for sharing your track experiences. I'll keep in mind to post here after my California Superbike School sessions. I think Keith's son, Dylan, really runs the show now. So, maybe they are teaching more modern techniques.

    I have definitely read "Twist of the Wrist Vol 2" as well as "Total Control" and "Sport Riding Techniques". Based on what you wrote above, these are all probably outdated.

    Certainly, I want to learn to lean more and to trust my bike. I don't want to overreact to the bike sliding under me, etc. I don't aspire to ever be as proficient as you. I started riding late in life and I just don't have the muscle memory and feel that you get from starting out younger.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 57,026
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    You assholes zooming around out here in Granite Falls drive me fucking crazy.

    Only did that once before hanging up the street riding. Amazing road! My buddy and I, he on an FZ1 and me on a CBR1000RR, once tried doing the whole Mountain Loop Highway, only to find it turned to extremely potholed gravel with a lot of downed trees. After several miles of standing up on a CBR like it's a motocross bike and railing through the dirt, weaving around downed trees, we finally came to a downed tree that blocked the whole road. We'd been having so much fun on this unexpected adventure that we actually scouted the bushes on the side of the road to work our way around, then briefly considered lifting each bike over the logs and carrying on our way, but sanity prevailed and we turned around.

    Granite Falls is an area I take people who are new to Western Washington just to blow them away with the views. Cool fucking city!°
    You keep waking up my llamas. Without well-rested stock, I can't transport my meth out.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 83,567
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    You assholes zooming around out here in Granite Falls drive me fucking crazy.

    Only did that once before hanging up the street riding. Amazing road! My buddy and I, he on an FZ1 and me on a CBR1000RR, once tried doing the whole Mountain Loop Highway, only to find it turned to extremely potholed gravel with a lot of downed trees. After several miles of standing up on a CBR like it's a motocross bike and railing through the dirt, weaving around downed trees, we finally came to a downed tree that blocked the whole road. We'd been having so much fun on this unexpected adventure that we actually scouted the bushes on the side of the road to work our way around, then briefly considered lifting each bike over the logs and carrying on our way, but sanity prevailed and we turned around.

    Granite Falls is an area I take people who are new to Western Washington just to blow them away with the views. Cool fucking city!°
    You keep waking up my llamas. Without well-rested stock, I can't transport my meth out.
    Swaye1to392831weretakenYellowSnow
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 39,765
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    This thread is epic.
    PurpleBaze1to392831weretakenCFetters_Nacho_LoverSoutherndawg
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 39,765
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    I felt the need to poast some Streetfighter porn.







    How fun would that be?

    That bike is just pure bad-assery.

    I'd kill myself confirmed.
    PurpleBaze1to392831weretakenWilliams3
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 39,765
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    You assholes zooming around out here in Granite Falls drive me fucking crazy.

    Only did that once before hanging up the street riding. Amazing road! My buddy and I, he on an FZ1 and me on a CBR1000RR, once tried doing the whole Mountain Loop Highway, only to find it turned to extremely potholed gravel with a lot of downed trees. After several miles of standing up on a CBR like it's a motocross bike and railing through the dirt, weaving around downed trees, we finally came to a downed tree that blocked the whole road. We'd been having so much fun on this unexpected adventure that we actually scouted the bushes on the side of the road to work our way around, then briefly considered lifting each bike over the logs and carrying on our way, but sanity prevailed and we turned around.

    Granite Falls is an area I take people who are new to Western Washington just to blow them away with the views. Cool fucking city!°
    CSB. For real.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,880
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    I felt the need to poast some Streetfighter porn.

    How fun would that be?

    That bike is just pure bad-assery.

    Oh, I'd certainly love to try one. I chose the SDR as my bananas dream bike because of its more torque-biased, impossible-to-not-wheelie, batshit crazy nature. 208 hp with no fairing would certainly be insane, but I've read that Ducati has actually biased the SF more to the track (high speed, high RPM, etc.), and it's actually a very civilized bike around town if you want it to be. Which is even more amazing of an achievement, just less batshit crazy. I'd have to try both back to back, though.

    As for developing skills by starting younger, I'm not too different from you. Now, 25 isn't 47, but it's still a hell of a lot older to start riding than when most people give it a shot (racing 85s like @Swaye). I developed a sudden and immediate addiction at 25, started track riding at 26, quit at 28 when it rained every fucking day for a whole summer, started again at 32 after they built The Ridge, and now I'm 40. Didn't start riding on the dirt until I was 29.

    I had zero real scary moments on the street after I started track riding. I had one crash and several close calls before, though, in that first year, because I didn't understand what the bike could do and thought I was in trouble when I wasn't. My only crash on the street happened right here, shortly before my first track day. I was on my way home from work and took the more curvy Bayview Edison to Chuckanut to get some "practice" in before my first day on track. (In retrospect, I laugh now at how backward thinking it is to practice for the track on a public road instead of vice versa...) I was well above 100 heading into that sweeper to the left, got on the brakes hard like you would, and the back end started fishtailing. I'd experienced this already, so no big deal (hard enough on the brakes, and the rear wheel isn't touching the ground, hence the fishtailing), but then the front end started chop-chop-chopping off the asphalt. This was new, and it freaked me out. Instead of just (probably easily) completing the turn, I decided the safest bet was to just run straight ahead on the gravel road that carried on straight. Didn't see the ditch that ran across that road, which launched me off my bike like I was shot out of a cannon. Landed upside down in a thicket of blackberries that have since been removed. Like being caught in a net, so I was completely unscathed. Bike took some fixin'. It was funny, as all of the blackberries smashed all over me made it look like I was totally fucked up and bloody.

    I bring this up because you're absolutely right as to the value the track brings to street riding. You don't need to know how to shave that last five seconds off your lap time. You DO need to know that if your bike does X, that's fine, and if your bike does Y, you should fix it. You learn that in a very safe environment at the track. Public roads are where you learn the hard way.
    SwayePurpleBazeWilliams3
  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,882
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    Thanks once again for the great insight...
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  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,882
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    Marc Marquez out another 2-3 months. Needless to say, TSIO for him.
    CFetters_Nacho_LoverAlohaDoog
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,880
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    Good call. I should watch the last race before I read any spoilers. Been out in the woods getting mosquito bites and tetanus all weekend and had forgotten about Austria 2.0.
    PurpleBaze
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,880
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    In other news, should we have a rolling "motorcycle stuff" all-in-one thread? Should this be it? If so, should it have the title changed and be moved by a benevolent modde to the Shoppe?
    PurpleBazeSwayeYellowSnow
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 39,765
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    In other news, should we have a rolling "motorcycle stuff" all-in-one thread? Should this be it? If so, should it have the title changed and be moved by a benevolent modde to the Shoppe?

    I can do this, though the Wam will miss your presence.
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