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Do Influenza Vaccines Work?

NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
Millions around the world still die from it every year and that’s without testing everyone ill for the specific cause of death.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,486 Standard Supporter

    Millions around the world still die from it every year and that’s without testing everyone ill for the specific cause of death.

    Apples/Oranges.

    Like the Vid, common cold is a coronavirus, no vaccine there. I'm not as sanguine on vaccine prospects.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,710 Swaye's Wigwam

    Millions around the world still die from it every year and that’s without testing everyone ill for the specific cause of death.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

    HTH
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,527 Founders Club
    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,486 Standard Supporter

    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm

    If they make it work, pay ‘em
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm

    If they make it work, pay ‘em
    My purpose for this thread is how can anyone know if the vaccines work? If someone who takes it gets the “flu,” which happens to my wife every other year it seems, the medical community just say “whoops, wrong strain” which is odd because I don’t take an annual vaccine and haven’t had the flu in almost 20 years. The kids get the same shot as wife and they don’t get it, either.

    Makes no sense to me.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,710 Swaye's Wigwam

    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm

    Flu vaccine is a drop in the bucket. Here is where drug spend is: https://www.express-scripts.com/corporate/drug-trend-report

    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm

    If they make it work, pay ‘em
    My purpose for this thread is how can anyone know if the vaccines work? If someone who takes it gets the “flu,” which happens to my wife every other year it seems, the medical community just say “whoops, wrong strain” which is odd because I don’t take an annual vaccine and haven’t had the flu in almost 20 years. The kids get the same shot as wife and they don’t get it, either.

    Makes no sense to me.
    Randomized control trials are the standards of drug/vaccine efficacy since they to create equal populations (to control for confounding variables) leaving only the intervention (vaccine or placebo) to show what type of effect it has.

    Given the production cycle of the flu vaccine, experts try to guess which strains may be most prevalent in each year (said above).

    NIAID has been working on a universal flu vaccine that targets a protein on the outside of the virus, which should account for most variations of the virus year-over-year, so you might see that around in the future.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,710 Swaye's Wigwam
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,853
    I've never had one. I was always I under the impression they mostly didn't do shit.

  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,710 Swaye's Wigwam
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    Yes I had to edit all those
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,522 Founders Club
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,592 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    Flu vaccine: racket for big farm

    If they make it work, pay ‘em
    My purpose for this thread is how can anyone know if the vaccines work? If someone who takes it gets the “flu,” which happens to my wife every other year it seems, the medical community just say “whoops, wrong strain” which is odd because I don’t take an annual vaccine and haven’t had the flu in almost 20 years. The kids get the same shot as wife and they don’t get it, either.

    Makes no sense to me.
    The flu vaccine is completely the opposite problem from a coronavirus vaccine

    Coronavirus have a low mutation rate but have the "check valve" I described above that prevents mutations but also prevents typical anti virals or vaccines from working

    The flu, specifically influenza A has a very rapid mutation rate due to the way it replicates its RNA polymerase and that the influenza genome is segmented and can mix during infection.

    The flu vaccine each year is the best the guess at how the various virus strands will mutate and what will spread the most that season.

    You and your wifes different reactions to the seasonal flu are a combination of luck, exposure, and genetic superiority.
    What about melanin?

    I've heard melanin in the key to success.

    If I like my melanin, can I keep it?

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