Some of the things the city of Seattle is considering cutting out of the police budget...

DoogieMcDoogerson

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

pawz

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Ice_Holmvik

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

TurdBomber

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Ice_Holmvik

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

I'm sure those are warrants for failure to appear for soccer moms dui. Swat serves warrants for the dangerous criminals. Especially in this kill cop climate serving warrants can be anything but routine so I say yes in fact we do need them to serve warrants.

TurdBomber

Ice_Holmvik said:

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

I'm sure those are warrants for failure to appear for soccer moms dui. Swat serves warrants for the dangerous criminals. Especially in this kill cop climate serving warrants can be anything but routine so I say yes in fact we do need them to serve warrants.

Or shut off the power and water. Didn't anyone see Malcolm X?

trublue

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

TurdBomber

trublue said:

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.

Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.

There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.

Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.

PurpleThrobber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFijg_Tnn7M

MikeDamone

SWAT certainly needs changes.

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs

trublue

MikeDamone said:

SWAT certainly needs changes.

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs

I’m sure Vox and the ACLU address this issue in a fair and balanced manner. I don’t believe a word they say in this article unless it is accompanied with a citation.

NorthwestFresh

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.


Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Asking because I don’t really know. Do local SWAT units serve federal warrants? I thought that was US Marshall and/or FBI.

GrundleStiltzkin

TurdBomber said:

trublue said:

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.

Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.

There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.

Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.

In his book "Rise of the Warrior Cop," Radley Balko recounts the rise of police SWAT teams (SWAT stands for Special Weapons And Tactics) armed with heavy military equipment. SWAT raids began as rarely used methods of dealing with violent situations, like hostage-takings.

But government always grows.

In the 1970s, there were about 300 SWAT raids per year. "As of 2005," says Balko, "100 to 150 per day."

What began as a few specialized groups of police trained to address genuine threats to safety has degenerated into small armies descending on organic farms where farmers sell unpasteurized milk and legal medical marijuana dispensaries getting raided as if they were heavily armed threats.

trublue

PurpleThrobber said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFijg_Tnn7M

TurdBomber said:

trublue said:

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.

Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.

There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.

Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.

What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”

BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.

You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.

Are you a defense attorney?

trublue

PurpleThrobber said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFijg_Tnn7M

LOL

Television is precisely like real life. I must have missed that short-lived series from 1975-76.

BleachedAnusDawg

I'm rooting hard for all of this plan to happen and for Seattle to plunge in to the third world. We need more domestic test cases to hold up against the new generation of commies infecting America.

WestlinnDuck

I think large cities need a SWAT unit, but for limited purposes. Serving no knock warrants in the middle of the night on small drug dealers isn't one of them in most cases. Columbine was a perfect opportunity for the SWAT team to shine. They just waited until everyone bled out and was dead. Same with the Florida night club shooting. Another police failure. The failures to stop the Portland and Seattle riots isn't the lack of a SWAT unit. It's the failure of the City Council. What's the use of a fully funded police unit when the failure has nothing to do with money?

thechatch

We don’t need police, guys. Hannah and Nathan from Social Services are here to handle domestic violence cases, going forward....

RaceBannon

SWAT gets called more because they can

Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed

Not worth it IMO

TurdBomber

trublue said:

PurpleThrobber said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFijg_Tnn7M

TurdBomber said:

trublue said:

TurdBomber said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

pawz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

This is insane.

Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
- sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

The city's Navigation team.
- This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

Data Driven Policing.
- Yeah, why would we need that?

North Seattle Precinct capital project.
- Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

The department's SWAT unit.
- This is the scariest of all.

Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
- Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
- Yeah, give this to the libtards.
-

Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.

Change my mind.

Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.

Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?

Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.

There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.

Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.

What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”

BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.

You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.

Are you a defense attorney?

Are you a prototypical High School loser dick who became a cop to take his revenge upon the society that rejected him?

UW_Doog_Bot

RaceBannon said:

SWAT gets called more because they can

Wait for swat means why risk my ass?
No knocks are to keep the drugs from being flushed

Not worth it IMO

Or because they're on an unconstitutional gun raid and don't want you shooting back while they murder you in your sleep.