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Some of the things the city of Seattle is considering cutting out of the police budget...

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  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    trublue said:

    National Aeronautic and Space Administration

    Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.

    National Institutes of Health
    Special Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.

    US Dept of Education
    Add the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.

    Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.

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    "They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."

    Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.

    Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.

    A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.


    Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations
    Members of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.


    United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)


    United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
    These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.

    SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.

    Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.

    Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.

    Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.

    trublue said:

    National Aeronautic and Space Administration

    Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.

    National Institutes of Health
    Special Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.

    US Dept of Education
    Add the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.

    Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.

    Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>

    "They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."

    Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.

    Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.

    A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.


    Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations
    Members of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.


    United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)


    United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
    These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.

    SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.

    Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.

    Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.

    Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.

    trublue said:

    National Aeronautic and Space Administration

    Emergency Response Team (ERT): ERT’s primary duties consist of a variety of disciplines including, but not limited to, mobile security patrols, investigations, traffic enforcement, and physical security duties/responsibilities. The specialized teams constitute and operate in the event of a high-risk situation.

    National Institutes of Health
    Special Response Team (SRT): The SRT’s mission is to protect the NIH community from internal threats, such as active shooters, and external threats from domestic or foreign terrorists. The SRT is trained in tactics optimized to neutralize threats to Select Agent storage areas, irradiators, patient clinics, and laboratories. The SRT also provides dignitary protection during presidential, congressional, and foreign heads of state visits.

    US Dept of Education
    Add the U.S. Department of Education to the list of federal agencies that can invade your home at gunpoint and hold you and your family in custody for hours.

    Kenneth Wright learned this the hard way last week, when federal "education" agents busted down the front door of his Stockton, Calif., home at 6 in the morning.

    Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>

    "They surrounded the house; it was like a task force or SWAT team," a neighbor told a national news affiliate. "They all had guns. They dragged him out in his boxer shorts, threw him to the ground and handcuffed him."

    Wright's terrified children -- ages 3, 9 and 11 -- were forced to sit in a patrol car for two hours. Wright himself was in custody for six hours. "I felt really bad for those kids," a neighbor said.

    Federal agents for the Education Department's inspector general executed a very broad search warrant and seized paperwork and a personal computer. Wright says the law enforcement agents -- who reportedly included 13 with the Education Department and one or two Stockton police officers -- told him they were investigating his estranged wife's use of federal aid for students. But she doesn't even live in his house.

    A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.


    Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations
    Members of the Special Operations Unit (SOU) support Patrol operations by providing rapid response and enhanced capabilities to assist in keeping Amtrak passengers and employees safe.


    United States Mint Police (USMP) Special Response Teams (SRT)


    United States Park Police (USPP) SWAT Team
    These are token SWAT teams and I will never defend them.

    SWAT teams that have adequate resources, train constantly and are deployed on a “regular” basis are needed.

    Federal SWAT teams of smaller agencies are a joke.

    Example: ATF in initial Waco raid; and ATF is not a small agency.

    Sooooooooooooo, you're saying a lot of these guys are not well-trained, but like to play dress-up and act like cowboys? Just want to be clear, here. Don't want to split hairs.
    Congratulations, Counselor, you can read and interpret written information.

    That’s more than most federal agents (with law degrees) that I worked with were capable of.

    Your denigration of the intelligence and competence of police officers in general (earlier in the thread) was duly noted.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,889 Standard Supporter
    Post better, @trublue. This isn't the Civil Service. Mediocrity isn't rewarded here.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.

    Fuck off, Counselor.



  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,889 Standard Supporter
    trublue said:

    If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.

    Fuck off, Counselor.

    Counselor? Okay.

    You think this shit requires brilliance? Maybe that's your problem.

    Along with thin skin and absurd self-righteousness.

    You know, the stuff that keeps getting you guys in trouble.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,889 Standard Supporter
    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    pawz said:

    This is insane.

    Some of their suggestions for cuts include targeting:

    Recruitment, retention and pay bonuses for new hires.
    - sure, let's make all the police officers quit due to bad morale and then remove any incentives to get good new police officers.

    The city's Navigation team.
    - This has nothing to do with defunding the police. It's a way to allow the homeless situation to grow.

    Data Driven Policing.
    - Yeah, why would we need that?

    North Seattle Precinct capital project.
    - Let the facilities in the north go into disrepair.

    The department's SWAT unit.
    - This is the scariest of all.


    Contracts with law firms hired to defend SPD police misconduct.
    - Equal representation under the law? ummm no.

    Move the Transfer Crisis Intervention unit out of the police department.
    - Yeah, give this to the libtards.
    -

    Let me be clear, I don't think they need less funding, they need more. For training. And also a wholesale culture change.

    That said I can get behind de-funding SWAT. I don't believe for a second they should have an outfit that looks like they should be on the streets of Fallujah. This has always bothered me. It's antagonistic and unnecessary. This is part and parcel of the much needed culture change.

    Change my mind.
    Swat isn't dealing with average Joe citizen. They're given the hardest and toughest people and situations. Lol at defunding swat. Go ahead and send your social workers in those situations and see how it works out.
    Do we really need an armored personnel carrier rumbling down the street full of armor clad wannabe soldiers to serve a Federal Warrant?
    Educate yourself . . . Swat teams vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction . . . Swat teams are highly trained and used only in special circumstances that are supposed to be justified (articulated) prior to execution of the subject search/arrest warrant.

    Execution of the vast majority of arrest/search warrants DO NOT involve SWAT teams.

    Highly Trained? Bullshit. And if you can fog a mirror you'll get a warrant.

    There are so many stupid fucking cowboy cops in SPD it's a decades-long joke of a department. Most hate the City and treat citizens like dirt. And they lie like rugs, make up total bullshit on the fly "This is Private Property" they'll yell while standing on a City Sidewalk or County Property, and the list goes on and on. I've read the same fucking police reports with the exact same "observations" a hundred times. Some cops are too stupid to even proofread their reports after sitting on their asses collecting overtime, probably while watching porn.

    Despite all of the above, I support cops because their job is a fucking dumpster fire, and I do sympathize. But don't pretend for a second they are heroes, or follow the law, because I know better. There are too many power-hungry dicks on the force and they've brought much of this present shit show upon themselves.
    What is the basis for your opinions? e.g., “And if you can fog a mirror, you’ll get a warrant . . . Some cops are too stupid to proofread their reports . . .”

    BTW: I said SWAT teams are highly trained, not all police.

    You sound very sympathetic in paragraph 2 of your diatribe.

    Are you a defense attorney?

    Are you a prototypical High School loser dick who became a cop to take his revenge upon the society that rejected him?
    Was the question too tough, Counselor?
    No. Too Boring. Like the rest of what you post.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    trublue said:

    If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.

    Fuck off, Counselor.

    Counselor? Okay.

    You think this shit requires brilliance? Maybe that's your problem.

    Along with thin skin and absurd self-righteousness.

    You know, the stuff that keeps getting you guys in trouble.

    trublue said:

    If only I could have aspired to be sorry assed legal eagle, slurping from the trough.

    Fuck off, Counselor.

    Being a defense attorney doesn’t require “brilliance” . . . It’s bottom of the barrel shit, often civil service.

    Instead of being a TurdBomber, perhaps ShitSlinger would be a more appropriate moniker for you.

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