We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Maybe someone did this and I didn't see it. If you apply the average amount of testing over the last week and apply that to history of the data we have, this is the "new cases" chart. Not so grim is it.
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
"Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."
Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.
Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
"Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."
Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.
Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.
I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
"Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."
Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.
Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.
I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
"Redfield estimates that between 5% and 8% of the U.S. population has been exposed."
Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.
Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.
I like the part where you have jumped from excess deaths to actual cases vs confirmed cases to now total percentages of total population in the attempt to try and find a foothold for your dumbfuck position.
You were wrong, just admit it
I can read your chart. Can you?
"And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis."
We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.
Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.
With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.
And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
Your chart applies 12X to the country, not cherry picked locations.
Ah, yes, the independently collected multi state normalized data that maintain coalescence while being shown together by the CDC are "cherry picked"...
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
I don't know, but we live in a world where Donald Trump is retweeting Chuck Woolery who is saying doctors are lying about pandemic numbers to purposely ruin the economy. What sort of prop bets could I have received on that 4 years ago? Either way, that can't sound smart.
If that’s the hill that supporters want to die on, then that’s ok. I admire their conviction. As long as you understand how that mindset is going to be portrayed.
I don’t imagine the majority of Americans would agree with the idea that medical professionals are falsifying data to purposely ruin the economy to get Trump out of office and that anyone who doesn’t believe it is a sheep. That will always be seen as a lunatic fringe theory.
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The fact that you havent "ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases." just shows how uninformed you are on the topic.
The CDC has 6 different seroprevalance study locations and found actual cases were 6-24 times more than the confirmed cases... Its basically on the CDC front page...
Western Washington; March 23-Apr 1: 11X Higher
NYC Metro Region; March 23-Apr 1: 12X Higher
South Florida; Apr 6-Apr10: 11X Higher
Missouri; Apr 20-Apr26: 24X Higher
Utah; Apr 20-May3: 11X Higher
Connecticut; Apr26-May3: 6X Higher
CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html#washington
Methodology Link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.25.20140384v1.full.pdf
data from here:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-states?country=~USA
This data manipulation over this moderate virus has reached peaked stupid.
How fucking retarded do you have to be to double down against what the CDC director is explicitly saying?
"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually were 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, said during a call with reporters Thursday."
NPR source: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883520249/cdc-at-least-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-heres-who-s-at-highest-ri
Just admit you were uninformed
Whether he's right or wrong, this doesn't support your argument which assumed that more than 11% of Americans have contracted Covid. Nor does his estimate of 20 million cases in late June support your claim from early June that the number was then 38 million--and you must think it's well over 50 million by now.
Redfield's comments don't support anything you've said.
You were wrong, just admit it
Better tell the CDC and its director
I don't know, but we live in a world where Donald Trump is retweeting Chuck Woolery who is saying doctors are lying about pandemic numbers to purposely ruin the economy. What sort of prop bets could I have received on that 4 years ago? Either way, that can't sound smart.
I don’t imagine the majority of Americans would agree with the idea that medical professionals are falsifying data to purposely ruin the economy to get Trump out of office and that anyone who doesn’t believe it is a sheep. That will always be seen as a lunatic fringe theory.