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I make spreadsheets ( Is this the flu? )

DoogieMcDoogersonDoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,488
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Flu Deaths source for 2018 - CDC
COVID-19 Deaths source for 2020 - Covid Tacking Project

For about 1/2 the states the COVID deaths would be a weak to average flu year.


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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,594 Standard Supporter
    How about another column with R or D for each state's governor?

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  • DoogieMcDoogersonDoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,488

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  • YouKnowItYouKnowIt Member Posts: 541
    How many of these Covid Deaths are flu deaths....
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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,039 Standard Supporter
    YouKnowIt said:

    How many of these Covid Deaths are flu deaths....

    Exactly. If there wasn't a test, the bureaucracy is calling it for the chicom crud. But according to the dems, SCIENCE, demanded a national or statewide lockdown. No damn fishing in eastern Washington and no damn playing of tennis in West Linn. PC politics demanded we put 46 million Americans out of work to protect the elderly and those with pre-existing medical conditions. Targeting the vulnerable was not acceptable. Destroying the best American economy for minorities in history to elect Slo Joe so he could save those minorities was the priority.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,594 Standard Supporter
    YouKnowIt said:

    How many of these Covid Deaths are flu deaths....

    Most of them
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club
    DoogieMcDoogerson said:


    Ok Arizona and Indiana. MA and MD aren't actual Republicans.
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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,386
    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.
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  • DoogieMcDoogersonDoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,488
    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,386
    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,386
    edited July 2020
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
    I agree. Yet suggesting we typically lose 137,000 people (and counting) to the flu would be ridiculous. And calling it just a "bad flu year" when we lose 137,000 to a different virus, and still have 35,000 or so dead from the flu as well, is simply dishonest.
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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,386
    Houhusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    With people sheltering in place--voluntarily or involuntarily--you would expect deaths to be way down.

    And your chart is the only place I have ever seen anyone estimate that actual cases are 12 times confirmed cases. That seems more like wishful thinking than analysis.
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,234 Swaye's Wigwam
    Take out about 6 states, yes.
    Houhusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    There was weekly excess deaths until there wasn't in June.

    Will be interesting to see what the total excess death was in a year or two.

    Could be anything. Don’t underestimate the pull forward deaths for those that would have died from the flu or something else that was minor in 2021 supposedly dying of Covid in 2020 in the over 80 category. Those probably will go down next year.

    The 30-40 somethings deaths in 2021 will be higher than 2020 though.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,151 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    Pointing out that people still die in other manners like car accidents or cancer is a rather irrelevant fact when discussing the comparative risk assessment or IFR of a disease.
    If you die in a car accident (or any other manner) and test positive for China virus it's a virus death.
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  • DoogieMcDoogersonDoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,488
    HHusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    So if you add the two together, it's kind of like moderately worse than a bad flu year, right?
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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,386
    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    HHusky said:

    We had the seasonal flu this year in addition to the coronavirus. You all seem to forget that.

    Seems to oddly be a "light year" in terms of flu deaths...
    Nope. Actually pretty typical.

    Which illustrates the other problem with your chart. 2018 was higher than typical. But, again, we didn't trade the flu for coronavirus; we now have both.
    So if you add the two together, it's kind of like moderately worse than a bad flu year, right?
    It’s not done yet.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,532 Founders Club
    Hopefully
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