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To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win -
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why? -
Except COVID isn't a big deal.MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
HTH
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Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
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The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
I second the questionMelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
don't hide behind "the media". How did Trump bungle this
Why didn't he bungle it in 2018?
What's the difference? -
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you -
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point. -
PatheticMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
It’s not though. A primary issue for you is the American main stream media and how they cover the administration which is the crux of this issue.SFGbob said:
PatheticMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Would they still hammer him regardless based on previous issues? Naturally. Could he avoid such intense persecution on this particular one with different messaging. I say yes. -
Like almost all leftards, they base their assumptions on a wad of feelings and facts are not part of the process. Logic based decision making is anathema to these tools.MelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it? -
Hardly a primary issue for me but whatever. You criticize Trump's handling of COVID but when asked about what he should have done differently you punt. You're not a serious person.MelloDawg said:
It’s not though. A primary issue for you is the American main stream media and how they cover the administration which is the crux of this issue.SFGbob said:
PatheticMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Would they still hammer him regardless based on previous issues? Naturally. Could he avoid the persecution on this particular one with different messaging. I say yes. -
I'm not interested in your dime store analysis of Trump which is as bad as everMelloDawg said:
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point.
I am interested in how you think he bungled this and why it is different from 2018. But you already punted on that
Sad
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I've only been here a handful of months, but you seem fairly passionate on the topic of the MSM and how they cover certain issues, but you're right, I could be wrong.SFGbob said:
Hardly a primary issue for me but whatever. You criticize Trump's handling of COVID but when asked about what he should have done differently you punt. You're not a serious person.MelloDawg said:
It’s not though. A primary issue for you is the American main stream media and how they cover the administration which is the crux of this issue.SFGbob said:
PatheticMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Would they still hammer him regardless based on previous issues? Naturally. Could he avoid the persecution on this particular one with different messaging. I say yes.
It's Trump's intransigence on the concept of COVID that's the issue here, not necessarily the merits of what he actually did. It would have caught any administration off guard, but he can't say "oops, we missed it the first time" unless he never thought it was a big deal from the start. Maybe he didn't.....but then we're back to discussing whether or not it was a big deal. -
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed it, but “The Media” actively works with Democrats with the sole purpose being to damage Trump and push liberal narratives.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
3 years spent on a Russian conspiracy so far-fetched you couldn’t even make a movie out of it. Yes dummies, Trump the Retard and Putin somehow eluded the entire Obama DOJ and leadership, even while they were spying on the campaign, and managed to steal the election from Hillary. Stupid people actually believe this nonsense happened, even after the Steele Dossier was never verified at best, and was known to be bullshit at worst yet still used for a spying FISA warrant.
LOL at thinking “The Media” would give Trump credit. Cuomo was shipping infected people into nursing homes, they bodies were being stacked like cordwood, yet “The Media” did nothing but praise him. “That’s how you handle coronavirus etc. etc.” and “Cuomo for President” as he deliberately was sending people into homes to infect and kill the Olds.
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Cognitive dissonance is believing a Trump rally spreads Covid while BLM protests of tens of thousands packed together and riots don’t. That’s your side, goofball. It takes a moron to believe one and not the other. You don’t even know what it means.MelloDawg said:
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point. -
What is worse, is that IC and his ilk don't even care they are too stupid and proudly ignorant to know what it means.
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I don't think anyone claimed the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID or reducing its spread. They happened to feel stronger about those social issues than public health, debate the merits of that if you'd like.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive dissonance is believing a Trump rally spreads Covid while BLM protests of tens of thousands packed together and riots don’t. That’s your side, goofball. It takes a moron to believe one and not the other. You don’t even know what it means.MelloDawg said:
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point.
Is it my side though? I just watched Hamilton and despite Aaron Burr not standing for anything per Alexander, he's not the one who lost the duel. -
Maybe stick around and learn a few things. There are dozens of articles like these in “The Media.” They are so mind-numbingly stupid that you’d think they’re satire. Liberalism is a mental disorder.MelloDawg said:
I don't think anyone claimed the protests were conducive to the containment of COVID or reducing its spread. They happened to feel stronger about those social issues than public health, debate the merits of that if you'd like.NorthwestFresh said:
Cognitive dissonance is believing a Trump rally spreads Covid while BLM protests of tens of thousands packed together and riots don’t. That’s your side, goofball. It takes a moron to believe one and not the other. You don’t even know what it means.MelloDawg said:
It’s just not a hill I choose to die on when at the Tug since cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic we face around these parts.RaceBannon said:
So you don't know how he bungled itMelloDawg said:
Not sure, not a public health or viral immunology expert, but you wouldn't like the responses I give anyway so I don't think there's much point. Besides, I said the media portrays him as bungling the whole thing, I'm not saying that it was a comprehensive failure in the first place and that's not the argument. The issue is the defiant rhetoric he uses when he is criticized for the response. Does he literally think he did nothing wrong and everything right when ostensibly qualified professionals suggest otherwise? He'll never be humble, but humility might have helped him from the start of this and still could. He just doubles down as if nothing went wrong from the beginning which gives his opponents and mass media lots of material to use.SFGbob said:
How should Trump have dealt with COVID differently? Please be specific.MelloDawg said:
The argument isn't whether or not COVID is a big deal, I agree there is a certain exaggeration to it, the reasons for which are also not a big deal. I suppose people appreciate Trump "telling it like it is" and not pandering like politicians do, but it's reactions like that which fuel the media to portray him as bungling this whole thing which could end up costing him re-election.RaceBannon said:
The 2018 quotes quite clearly say that 2020 has been bullshit and is bullshitMelloDawg said:
Because the 2018 quotes are another way of saying "it's just the flu" when it is not "just the flu," but you know that. Thanks to the tote boreds, there are millions of people who think it's the end of the world (it's not). Trump and such don't have to treat it that way, but they also don't have to pretend it's almost non-existent. This is why I like how Pence approaches it in his news conferences. Messaging from the top is why our "dementia addled retard" has a chance in November.RaceBannon said:
What?MelloDawg said:
To be fair, his messaging is slightly better than "this will all go away." The actual mantra should be that they acknowledge COVID is still around and still a big deal but because of the administration's efforts in the first place, it is far more manageable. No 2018 quotes.RaceBannon said:
Read the whole damn thread. We got played so a dementia addled retard in the basement can win
The 2018 quotes are the whole point but you know that
No telethon tote board or lockdown
Why?
But you know that. Take it easy on the straw man dude.
We have flu strains every fucking year that kill tens of thousands. We have never shut down the country.
This is not a big deal for 99.8 percent of the 350 million Americans. A far larger percentage of the population died in 1969. We didn't shut down
The lockdown will end up fucking over millions of lives including death. Already started
You are in this simply to get the retard elected. Why try to deny it?
Thank you
But again though, he either clearly thinks he did everything right from the start and that medical professionals are wrong or he’s turning inward and not wanting to admit fault for fear of public perception. I say the latter. You could argue that he’d still be portrayed as a failed leader on this issue though, I could concede that point.
Is it my side though? I just watched Hamilton and despite Aaron Burr not standing for anything per Alexander, he's not the one who lost the duel.
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Why the Black Lives Matter Protests Didn’t Contribute to the COVID-19 Surge
Written by Matt Berger on July 8, 2020 — Fact checked by Dana K. Cassell
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/black-lives-matter-protests-didnt-contribute-to-covid19-surge
Black Lives Matter protests have not led to a spike in coronavirus cases, research says
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/24/us/coronavirus-cases-protests-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html -
There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
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Video actually wasn’t too bad, basically things are ok but we will consider expanding capacity if it continues to grow. Unless the state data is wrong we have 10K people in Texas hospitals with covid. That can’t keep going up without problems.RaceBannon said:They aren't stopping
Texas emergency doctor: State may need stadium-type venue to handle COVID-19 patients
https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-emergency-doctor-may-need-stadium-handle-covid-patients
What I find annoying is the countries/cities who “have it all figure out” got their asses handed to them in March and took their hit on deaths and cases to get to some herd immunity level. The parts of Europe opening up aren’t because they’ve figured out something special, they literally already let it burn through their population on accident in March/April. -
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
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You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values? -
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is. -
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth -
But I don’t and didn’t shrug off Biden’s comments on the racial jungle and “you ain’t black” stuff. Neither are good and don’t fit within his party’s alleged values.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You could criticize both. But youre partisan, so you toe the party line and criticize only one and shrug off the Biden stuff.MelloDawg said:
I thought I was pretty clear on the racial tension issues and how neither candidates’ commentary really moves the needle for me. I could both criticize and defend both Biden and Trump when it comes to that issue. I don’t predicate my vote on that stuff.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You only show up to make half assed contrarian points, and usually abandon ship when met with counter points.MelloDawg said:
Again with this “side” stuff. I know it’s easier to make things so binary these days because it’s easier to combat “the other” when it sounds like they’re diametrically opposed to you. You’d be surprised how I’m probably in line with some of your values as well.WestlinnDuck said:There is that word, "feel". Maybe your side could go get educated and stop feeling and lying about it.
The other day you were toeing the "Trump is racist" line, I responded along with other with a bumch of Biden actual racism, and you responded with some weak shit "I dont have a pulse on the black community" non answer
So tell us Mello, what the fuck are your values?
Now if THAT isn’t a non answer, I don’t know what is.
Hth
