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Mount Rushmore a symbol of white supremacy says the DNC

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
    Agree with all of this.

    Letting the "Redeemer" Demokkkrats retake southern politics and disenfranchise blacks again was quite possibly the worst political decision in American history.

    They undid so much of what those 400,000 yanks died for.

    Absolutely tragic.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
    Agree with all of this.

    Letting the "Redeemer" Demokkkrats retake southern politics and disenfranchise blacks again was quite possibly the worst political decision in American history.

    They undid so much of what those 400,000 yanks died for.

    Absolutely tragic.

    The moral and just aftermath of the Civil War would have been 40 acres, a mule and full and enforceable civil rights. But before any of this could happen, Lincoln, first had to win the war and that meant reelection in 1864 with a Pro Union (Southern) Democrat on the ticket for Veep. John Wilkes Booth probably did as much as anyone to set back the plight of blacks in America. Andrew Johnson was the worst post Civil War POTUS.
    indeed
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,594 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
    Agree with all of this.

    Letting the "Redeemer" Demokkkrats retake southern politics and disenfranchise blacks again was quite possibly the worst political decision in American history.

    They undid so much of what those 400,000 yanks died for.

    Absolutely tragic.

    The moral and just aftermath of the Civil War would have been 40 acres, a mule and full and enforceable civil rights. But before any of this could happen, Lincoln, first had to win the war and that meant reelection in 1864 with a Pro Union (Southern) Democrat on the ticket for Veep. John Wilkes Booth probably did as much as anyone to set back the plight of blacks in America. Andrew Johnson was the worst post Civil War POTUS.
    I'm hearing Abraham Lincoln was a bigoted piece of shit. Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.


  • GrandpaSankey
    GrandpaSankey Member Posts: 958

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
    Agree with all of this.

    Letting the "Redeemer" Demokkkrats retake southern politics and disenfranchise blacks again was quite possibly the worst political decision in American history.

    They undid so much of what those 400,000 yanks died for.

    Absolutely tragic.

    The moral and just aftermath of the Civil War would have been 40 acres, a mule and full and enforceable civil rights. But before any of this could happen, Lincoln, first had to win the war and that meant reelection in 1864 with a Pro Union (Southern) Democrat on the ticket for Veep. John Wilkes Booth probably did as much as anyone to set back the plight of blacks in America. Andrew Johnson was the worst post Civil War POTUS.
    I'm hearing Abraham Lincoln was a bigoted piece of shit. Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.


    That's My President
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,686 Standard Supporter

    Never mind that New York is named after a slave trader who monopolized the British slave trade, and the NYT building sits on land that was basically stolen from the Lenape.

    Borglum was a democrat obviously.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    The constitution was written by slave owners yet was the vehicle to end slavery.

    The founders did punt but the chickens did come home

    Somewhere in all this it gets missed that the chickens did come home to the tune of about 400,000 boys in blue who had to die to fix the problem. If that's not blood atonement I don't know what is.
    The problem is the boys in blue didn't have the conviction to follow through with reconstruction. The Civil War was absolutely a fantastic moment of atonement. The ensuing years through Grant's administration were mostly great as well (fuck Andrew Johnson). But the north/GOP gave much of that goodwill back with the Compromise of 1877 and the crooked election of Rutherford B Hayes.

    1860-1876 was a golden age of American equality.

    It was sadly short lived.

    Most of what we are experiencing now isn't so much the repercussions of slavery as it is is the repercussions of Jim Crow, even if the protestors don't understand that themselves.
    Agreed, but it would have been very difficult to sustain the political will to enforce Reconstruction. If would have taken a lot more killing of Southern Rat party members. People just got tired of it and no longer had the will to continue it. Many felt that the price in lives and treasure were already enough and when Democrats started winning offices in the North again the pressure to end it grew.
    Agree with all of this.

    Letting the "Redeemer" Demokkkrats retake southern politics and disenfranchise blacks again was quite possibly the worst political decision in American history.

    They undid so much of what those 400,000 yanks died for.

    Absolutely tragic.

    The moral and just aftermath of the Civil War would have been 40 acres, a mule and full and enforceable civil rights. But before any of this could happen, Lincoln, first had to win the war and that meant reelection in 1864 with a Pro Union (Southern) Democrat on the ticket for Veep. John Wilkes Booth probably did as much as anyone to set back the plight of blacks in America. Andrew Johnson was the worst post Civil War POTUS.
    I'm hearing Abraham Lincoln was a bigoted piece of shit. Just what I'm hearing, don't twist.


    lol thats Oedipus, read a book
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    This is all I have to say about Mount Rushmore










    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU9FEUBPWt4