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Let's bring Russia back into the G7

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,267
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    edited June 2020
    It still amazes me that supposedly "educated" individuals who love their elite college degrees have no problem debasing those degrees on a regular basis. The fact that there is no functional difference between IC and Rachel Maddow who has degrees from Stanford and Oxford should be a cause for a little introspection and reflection on what being educated actually means. It means nothing unless you learned some basic logic skills and appreciated the moral value of honesty and integrity. For a leftard, these are actually a moral hindrance. All that matters
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    RatherBeBrewingRatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
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    I thought that one of the few benefits of a Republican administration would be getting tough on Russia.

    When Russia invaded Ukraine all that Obama authorized were some sanctions, and made sure to send blankets and expired rations. Oh, and thoughts and prayers.

    The thoughts and prayers didn't work well against T-72 tanks, advanced anti aircraft systems, a non-ending train of conscripts and supplies, GRU officers, and these lovely, battle hardened mercenary death squads from Chechnya and Ingushetia:




    After Clinton got Ukraine to give up the third largest nuclear arsenal, and then Senator Obama got them to curtail weapons manufacturing and destroy stockpiles, American assurances became worthless. It's not a huge deal in itself, but the consequences are that even if Pax Americana didn't already end before that this was the final nail in the coffin.

    But, surely, when Trump would be elected he would handle things like a Republican? Let the military and intelligence communities actually do their jobs. Stop letting Russia ride roughshod through international politics and land while making the US look like a bitch. The result has been... What the fuck? You have to do some real mental gymnastics to convince yourself Trump isn't at the very least pro-Russia. He makes Obama look like Ronald Reagan. I watch some Russian TV, and they can't get enough of they guy who they call наша оранжевая сука.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    Good news ladies.

    Russia says they didn’t do it. Nothing to see here.
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    insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
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    HHusky said:

    Good news ladies.

    Russia says they didn’t do it. Nothing to see here.

    Yup, it's all a hoax. Just like the coronavirus!
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,287
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    H was all in on sending cash to the Ayatollah

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,267
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    The two biggest problems for Russia is a stronger NATO and American military and American fracking. Trump supports both. Leftards and including almost every dem candidate support neither. Now who is Putin's bitch. Next, the chicoms are 10 times the problem of the Russians. Probable dem nominee is bought and paid for Slo Jo. Keep rooting for the away team.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,287
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    This story could be a chi com special
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    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,216
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    Sledog said:
    Until Mark Esper resigns due to creative differences with the administration, then he's part of the Swamp that we never knew existed.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    MelloDawg said:

    Sledog said:
    Until Mark Esper resigns due to creative differences with the administration, then he's part of the Swamp that we never knew existed.
    It’s pronounced Yesper.
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    HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
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    I thought that one of the few benefits of a Republican administration would be getting tough on Russia.

    When Russia invaded Ukraine all that Obama authorized were some sanctions, and made sure to send blankets and expired rations. Oh, and thoughts and prayers.

    The thoughts and prayers didn't work well against T-72 tanks, advanced anti aircraft systems, a non-ending train of conscripts and supplies, GRU officers, and these lovely, battle hardened mercenary death squads from Chechnya and Ingushetia:




    After Clinton got Ukraine to give up the third largest nuclear arsenal, and then Senator Obama got them to curtail weapons manufacturing and destroy stockpiles, American assurances became worthless. It's not a huge deal in itself, but the consequences are that even if Pax Americana didn't already end before that this was the final nail in the coffin.

    But, surely, when Trump would be elected he would handle things like a Republican? Let the military and intelligence communities actually do their jobs. Stop letting Russia ride roughshod through international politics and land while making the US look like a bitch. The result has been... What the fuck? You have to do some real mental gymnastics to convince yourself Trump isn't at the very least pro-Russia. He makes Obama look like Ronald Reagan. I watch some Russian TV, and they can't get enough of they guy who they call наша оранжевая сука.

    Increased oil production, limiting the importation of of other natural resources, increased pressure on European countries to invest in their own protection, and moving more military into friendly US countries like Poland, is by far the best bulwark against Russian expansionism that doesn’t lead to open war with Russia. All of which Trump has done.

    Militarily... Trump openly ran on a quasi isolationist platform... It was a large part of his appeal... If you thought "handle things like a Republican" as in stereotypical aggressively send troops and escalate every international incident then you are a retard who wasn't paying attention.

    Regardless US military action is neutered, in a large part due to the widespread internal antiAmericanism in the US right now and OrangeManBad division. The US doesnt even have the stomach to do what needs to be done in much easier "conflicts" in Iraq or Afghanistan... People lost their shit over a few tough decisions made while destroying the world hated death-cult ISIS/ISIL and you are out here advocating for warmongering with Russia, Lybia, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and probably Turkey over what?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,287
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    If Putin wants the support of the Democrats he simply needs to say he's communist again
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    If Putin wants the support of the Democrats he simply needs to say he's communist again

    A little sad.

    Truth sinking in for you?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,287
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    HHusky said:

    If Putin wants the support of the Democrats he simply needs to say he's communist again

    A little sad.

    Truth sinking in for you?
    Missed the point again did you?
    Houhusky said:

    I thought that one of the few benefits of a Republican administration would be getting tough on Russia.

    When Russia invaded Ukraine all that Obama authorized were some sanctions, and made sure to send blankets and expired rations. Oh, and thoughts and prayers.

    The thoughts and prayers didn't work well against T-72 tanks, advanced anti aircraft systems, a non-ending train of conscripts and supplies, GRU officers, and these lovely, battle hardened mercenary death squads from Chechnya and Ingushetia:




    After Clinton got Ukraine to give up the third largest nuclear arsenal, and then Senator Obama got them to curtail weapons manufacturing and destroy stockpiles, American assurances became worthless. It's not a huge deal in itself, but the consequences are that even if Pax Americana didn't already end before that this was the final nail in the coffin.

    But, surely, when Trump would be elected he would handle things like a Republican? Let the military and intelligence communities actually do their jobs. Stop letting Russia ride roughshod through international politics and land while making the US look like a bitch. The result has been... What the fuck? You have to do some real mental gymnastics to convince yourself Trump isn't at the very least pro-Russia. He makes Obama look like Ronald Reagan. I watch some Russian TV, and they can't get enough of they guy who they call наша оранжевая сука.

    Increased oil production, limiting the importation of of other natural resources, increased pressure on European countries to invest in their own protection, and moving more military into friendly US countries like Poland, is by far the best bulwark against Russian expansionism that doesn’t lead to open war with Russia. All of which Trump has done.

    Militarily... Trump openly ran on a quasi isolationist platform... It was a large part of his appeal... If you thought "handle things like a Republican" as in stereotypical aggressively send troops and escalate every international incident then you are a retard who wasn't paying attention.

    Regardless US military action is neutered, in a large part due to the widespread internal antiAmericanism in the US right now and OrangeManBad division. The US doesnt even have the stomach to do what needs to be done in much easier "conflicts" in Iraq or Afghanistan... People lost their shit over a few tough decisions made while destroying the world hated death-cult ISIS/ISIL and you are out here advocating for warmongering with Russia, Lybia, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and probably Turkey over what?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    HHusky said:

    If Putin wants the support of the Democrats he simply needs to say he's communist again

    A little sad.

    Truth sinking in for you?
    Missed the point again did you?
    Houhusky said:

    I thought that one of the few benefits of a Republican administration would be getting tough on Russia.

    When Russia invaded Ukraine all that Obama authorized were some sanctions, and made sure to send blankets and expired rations. Oh, and thoughts and prayers.

    The thoughts and prayers didn't work well against T-72 tanks, advanced anti aircraft systems, a non-ending train of conscripts and supplies, GRU officers, and these lovely, battle hardened mercenary death squads from Chechnya and Ingushetia:




    After Clinton got Ukraine to give up the third largest nuclear arsenal, and then Senator Obama got them to curtail weapons manufacturing and destroy stockpiles, American assurances became worthless. It's not a huge deal in itself, but the consequences are that even if Pax Americana didn't already end before that this was the final nail in the coffin.

    But, surely, when Trump would be elected he would handle things like a Republican? Let the military and intelligence communities actually do their jobs. Stop letting Russia ride roughshod through international politics and land while making the US look like a bitch. The result has been... What the fuck? You have to do some real mental gymnastics to convince yourself Trump isn't at the very least pro-Russia. He makes Obama look like Ronald Reagan. I watch some Russian TV, and they can't get enough of they guy who they call наша оранжевая сука.

    Increased oil production, limiting the importation of of other natural resources, increased pressure on European countries to invest in their own protection, and moving more military into friendly US countries like Poland, is by far the best bulwark against Russian expansionism that doesn’t lead to open war with Russia. All of which Trump has done.

    Militarily... Trump openly ran on a quasi isolationist platform... It was a large part of his appeal... If you thought "handle things like a Republican" as in stereotypical aggressively send troops and escalate every international incident then you are a retard who wasn't paying attention.

    Regardless US military action is neutered, in a large part due to the widespread internal antiAmericanism in the US right now and OrangeManBad division. The US doesnt even have the stomach to do what needs to be done in much easier "conflicts" in Iraq or Afghanistan... People lost their shit over a few tough decisions made while destroying the world hated death-cult ISIS/ISIL and you are out here advocating for warmongering with Russia, Lybia, Syria, Iran, North Korea, and probably Turkey over what?
    You've started having a point?!?
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    While the typical Leftist Stooges fell for more anonymous bullshit designed solely to distract the idiots, Russia is going forward in constructing their pipeline so Germany can buy that sweet, sweet Putin fossil fuel energy. Nobody knew we put new sanctions on Putin for this pipeline because our ‘journalistic’ media is a propaganda scam, but Germany doesn’t care if they fund Putin.

    https://euobserver.com/foreign/148805

    Russia: 'Nothing will stop' Germany gas pipeline

    "Nothing will stop" Nord Stream 2, Russia has said, after new US sanctions on a pipeline that is seeing the EU side with Russia against its transatlantic ally.
    "Our view remains the same: nothing will stop the finalisation of Nord Stream 2 [NS2]. And we leave to Germany and other EU member states to pass judgement on such US measures," Russia's ambassador to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov, told EUobserver on Monday (29 June).

    Swiss pipe-laying ship stopped work after first round of US sanctions (Photo: nord-stream2.com)

    The Russian-owned firm building the pipe from Russia to Germany, the Nord Stream 2 consortium in Switzerland, was equally bullish.

    "Our shareholder and the five financial investors are fully committed to the project, as are Nord Stream 2's suppliers," it told this website, also on Monday.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Because of course he did. This guy

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/02/schiff-learned-of-russian-bounty-intelligence-in-february-withheld-information-from-congress-and-took-no-action/

    Schiff Learned Of Russian ‘Bounty’ Intelligence In February, Withheld Information From Congress, And Took No Action

    Schiff demands the Trump administration brief all of Congress about the unverified allegations, yet he himself did not ask for a briefing following the February briefing of his own staff.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    FireCohen said:

    US ain’t starting shit with the Russian period

    You going to enlist for the war?


    China is far more dangerous but they own the Democrats.
    So Republicans are ok with Russians paying bounties to kill American soldiers now? What happened to the GOP that was TUFF on Russia?
    This thread delivered.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    The NYT was apparently briefed on the bounties before the White House. Move along, nothing to see here

    There aren’t briefings on every anonymously-sourced bullshit the NYT Fake News publishes.

    “Alleged” means something, dipshit.
    This post isn't going to age well
    Disagree. @insinceredawg
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    The NYT was apparently briefed on the bounties before the White House. Move along, nothing to see here

    There aren’t briefings on every anonymously-sourced bullshit the NYT Fake News publishes.

    “Alleged” means something, dipshit.
    This post isn't going to age well
    Disagree. @insinceredawg
    You notice how the usual dumbfucks all jumped in with both feet on this story? I also like Owl trying to keep hope alive about the Dossier's veracity.
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