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creepycoug

Agree with your assessment. Pence is very Presidential. Good speaker, level-headed, etc.

I've no idea of whether he has the real goods, and he's a little more socially conservative than am I. With that said, he seems very electable.

Good call several months ago.

NorthwestFresh

He doesn’t bang randos or grope women as real presidents and candidates do. He doesn’t even meet with other women alone for fear of #MeToo.

Doesn’t work in 2024. Needs more juice, Taggart-style.

creepycoug

NorthwestFresh said:

He doesn’t bang randos or grope women as real presidents and candidates do. He doesn’t even meet with other women alone for fear of #MeToo.

Doesn’t work in 2024. Needs more juice, Taggart-style.

He may not win over the far right who loves Donnie's shit talkin' style and would overlook him fucking the dog. But to many on the right, including the dreaded establishment Republican line, he may have appeal. Especially for the real Christian right ... the prudes who actually never miss church, don't like profanity and boorishness and all that. The ones that do their sinning in a dark closet. A midwestern Christian, if you will. Those guysms would vote for Pence. I'm sure of it.

I can actually see the appeal of this guy.

creepycoug

PS: I'm not sure his hesitance to meet with women 1 on 1 for M2 concerns is all that out there. I think about it.

NorthwestFresh

creepycoug said:

PS: I'm not sure his hesitance to meet with women 1 on 1 for M2 concerns is all that out there. I think about it.

It’s a good business and life decision.

RaceBannon

Pence is going to be better than any democrat and unlike the never trump cry babies Trump voters will support him

But don't think for one second that Pence won't be savaged as bad as Trump. Will he fight back or bend over. That's all that matters at this point

In case you hadn't noticed the left marches in lock step and are quite clearly serious about fucking this country over to save it

It's no time for fags on the right to keep retreating. And that's why Trump is in the White House now. If Biden wins 2024 won't matter anyway

GreenRiverGatorz

creepycoug said:

NorthwestFresh said:

He doesn’t bang randos or grope women as real presidents and candidates do. He doesn’t even meet with other women alone for fear of #MeToo.

Doesn’t work in 2024. Needs more juice, Taggart-style.

He may not win over the far right who loves Donnie's shit talkin' style and would overlook him fucking the dog. But to many on the right, including the dreaded establishment Republican line, he may have appeal. Especially for the real Christian right ... the prudes who actually never miss church, don't like profanity and boorishness and all that. The ones that do their sinning in a dark closet. A midwestern Christian, if you will. Those guysms would vote for Pence. I'm sure of it.

I can actually see the appeal of this guy.

Disagree, I don't think an outspoken evangelical has a chance in hell of getting elected in today's climate. He's just a more polished Rick Santorum.

RaceBannon

Pence is the type of GOP that I did NOT vote for before. Trump is the democrat I did. Gator is right because I don't think Pence can handle the shit storm. Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

DerekJohnson

RaceBannon said:

Pence is the type of GOP that I did NOT vote for before. Trump is the democrat I did. Gator is right because I don't think Pence can handle the shit storm. Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

I don't think we have anyway of knowing

RaceBannon

History can be our guide. As can the current GOP "leadership" which is standing idly by doing nothing while hoping they can get re elected to keep doing nothing other than give in as the noble minority party they love to be

NorthwestFresh

RaceBannon said:

History can be our guide. As can the current GOP "leadership" which is standing idly by doing nothing while hoping they can get re elected to keep doing nothing other than give in as the noble minority party they love to be

Fortunately most people forget what they ate for dinner last night and that Joe Biden has course eruption from China to Ukraine and NOC, but Pence isn’t Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/31/mike-pence-caves-seeks-clarification-religio/

Mike Pence caves, seeks clarification to religious-objections law

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

Jesus told you that already.

NorthwestFresh

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

Jesus told you that already.

Why can’t you be even a little bit funny or at the very least, witty.

creepycoug

NorthwestFresh said:

RaceBannon said:

History can be our guide. As can the current GOP "leadership" which is standing idly by doing nothing while hoping they can get re elected to keep doing nothing other than give in as the noble minority party they love to be

Fortunately most people forget what they ate for dinner last night and that Joe Biden has course eruption from China to Ukraine and NOC, but Pence isn’t Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/31/mike-pence-caves-seeks-clarification-religio/

Mike Pence caves, seeks clarification to religious-objections law

Yes.

dflea

NorthwestFresh said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

Jesus told you that already.

Why can’t you be even a little bit funny or at the very least, witty.

Ironic.

MikeDamone

Pence wants to round up the gays and execute them. That’s what I’m hearing.

MelloDawg

RaceBannon said:

Pence is the type of GOP that I did NOT vote for before. Trump is the democrat I did. Gator is right because I don't think Pence can handle the shit storm. Being a Christian is basically hate speech these days. Only a little hyperbole

Trump is the counter culture politician to the culture that hates the counter culture. I disagree that Trump voters will get behind Pence to a significant degree. Trump voters loved Trump, his VP was irrelevant, which is why he did replace him with a person like Nikki Haley, it would be a real indicator of panic mode.

That said, Pence doesn’t have the ability to galvanize a base the way Trump does. He is eloquent and media savvy, but that’s about it. He is rather bland overall.

RaceBannon

I would clarify that Trump voters would look for someone else in the primaries. If Pence was the nominee he'd get the votes unless the Democrats ran a Democrat

MelloDawg

I was remarking to my binary-gendered life mate tonight that if Pence was president now, had done with the economy what Trump did, and bungled the COVID response, he’d be able to recover well enough to win re-election rather easily because he’s so smooth in his responses.

DerekJohnson

RaceBannon said:

I would clarify that Trump voters would look for someone else in the primaries. If Pence was the nominee he'd get the votes unless the Democrats ran a Democrat

This is assuming that the sudden scrutiny on Pence wouldn't bring with it increased admiration from the public. Right now, he's just largely regarded as an empty suit, rightly or wrongly.

DerekJohnson

MelloDawg said:

I was remarking to my binary-gendered life mate tonight that if Pence was president now, had done with the economy what Trump did, and bungled the COVID response, he’d be able to recover well enough to win re-election rather easily because he’s so smooth in his responses.

that's our Mello