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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    Beno4Life said:

    Ha, meanwhile that DE verbals to Oklahoma and we sign a FCS player. Story of this “legendary” 2021 class. What a fucking joke. Hahaha, god we’re pathetic.

    Well, he's technically coming in with the 2020 class
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,492 Founders Club
    I remember drunkenly watching Sac State hang in there in Tempe until the end last year, not sure how big of an impact he had because that game scored like 2 shitty NFL teams matching up.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited June 2020
    RoadDawg55 said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Donovan has preferred more mobile QBs. His starters at Vandy were Aaron Rodgers' brother and Magna Carta's brother, not exactly dual threat QBs but definitely not statues. He signed Trace McSorley at Penn State but was stuck with Hackenberg during his tenure as OC. I could see this kid or Garbers winning the job.

    If a college coach prefers a pocket passer, he’s retarded. Not saying all pocket passers suck, but most of them do, and it’s a hinderance if your QB can’t run. But Tom Brady!
    I guess it depends on the level. At the college level, mobile quarterbacks are much more valuable because they can outrun most linebackers. However, in the NFL where linebackers run 4.4 and 4.5 40's, the mobile QB isn't as valuable. Unless of course you have Lamar Jackson speed which is once in a generation type of speed. The only QB even comparable is Michael Vick. Even Randall Cunningham didn't have close to Jackson's speed.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    greenblood said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Donovan has preferred more mobile QBs. His starters at Vandy were Aaron Rodgers' brother and Magna Carta's brother, not exactly dual threat QBs but definitely not statues. He signed Trace McSorley at Penn State but was stuck with Hackenberg during his tenure as OC. I could see this kid or Garbers winning the job.

    If a college coach prefers a pocket passer, he’s retarded. Not saying all pocket passers suck, but most of them do, and it’s a hinderance if your QB can’t run. But Tom Brady!
    I guess it depends on the level. At the college level, mobile quarterbacks are much more valuable because they can outrun most linebackers. However, in the NFL where linebackers run 4.4 and 4.5 40's, the mobile QB isn't as valuable. Unless of course you have Lamar Jackson speed which is once in a generation type of speed. The only QB even comparable is Michael Vick. Even Randall Cunningham didn't have close to Jackson's speed.
    The NFL is seeing the value of being elusive like Mahomes who isnt fast

    Definitely like mobile in college
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    greenblood said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Donovan has preferred more mobile QBs. His starters at Vandy were Aaron Rodgers' brother and Magna Carta's brother, not exactly dual threat QBs but definitely not statues. He signed Trace McSorley at Penn State but was stuck with Hackenberg during his tenure as OC. I could see this kid or Garbers winning the job.

    If a college coach prefers a pocket passer, he’s retarded. Not saying all pocket passers suck, but most of them do, and it’s a hinderance if your QB can’t run. But Tom Brady!
    I guess it depends on the level. At the college level, mobile quarterbacks are much more valuable because they can outrun most linebackers. However, in the NFL where linebackers run 4.4 and 4.5 40's, the mobile QB isn't as valuable. Unless of course you have Lamar Jackson speed which is once in a generation type of speed. The only QB even comparable is Michael Vick. Even Randall Cunningham didn't have close to Jackson's speed.
    And yet having a mobile QB is still advantageous in the NFL, just not to the same degree as in college.

    The days of the Mannings, Bradys Brees and Rivers types dominating the league are numbered.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    NEsnake12 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    greenblood said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Donovan has preferred more mobile QBs. His starters at Vandy were Aaron Rodgers' brother and Magna Carta's brother, not exactly dual threat QBs but definitely not statues. He signed Trace McSorley at Penn State but was stuck with Hackenberg during his tenure as OC. I could see this kid or Garbers winning the job.

    If a college coach prefers a pocket passer, he’s retarded. Not saying all pocket passers suck, but most of them do, and it’s a hinderance if your QB can’t run. But Tom Brady!
    I guess it depends on the level. At the college level, mobile quarterbacks are much more valuable because they can outrun most linebackers. However, in the NFL where linebackers run 4.4 and 4.5 40's, the mobile QB isn't as valuable. Unless of course you have Lamar Jackson speed which is once in a generation type of speed. The only QB even comparable is Michael Vick. Even Randall Cunningham didn't have close to Jackson's speed.
    The NFL is seeing the value of being elusive like Mahomes who isnt fast

    Definitely like mobile in college
    Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson have been doing that for the last decade. Neither are really fast. Mahomes didn’t suddenly make the NFL value elusiveness more
    I didn't actually say Mahomes did. Just that the NFL is a copy cat league and you don't need to run a 4.4 to be mobile. Mahomes is the most recent champ


    Jackson met with with skepticism even after Rodgers and Russell

    Mahomes wasn't the first qb drafted
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    NEsnake12 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    greenblood said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Donovan has preferred more mobile QBs. His starters at Vandy were Aaron Rodgers' brother and Magna Carta's brother, not exactly dual threat QBs but definitely not statues. He signed Trace McSorley at Penn State but was stuck with Hackenberg during his tenure as OC. I could see this kid or Garbers winning the job.

    If a college coach prefers a pocket passer, he’s retarded. Not saying all pocket passers suck, but most of them do, and it’s a hinderance if your QB can’t run. But Tom Brady!
    I guess it depends on the level. At the college level, mobile quarterbacks are much more valuable because they can outrun most linebackers. However, in the NFL where linebackers run 4.4 and 4.5 40's, the mobile QB isn't as valuable. Unless of course you have Lamar Jackson speed which is once in a generation type of speed. The only QB even comparable is Michael Vick. Even Randall Cunningham didn't have close to Jackson's speed.
    The NFL is seeing the value of being elusive like Mahomes who isnt fast

    Definitely like mobile in college
    Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson have been doing that for the last decade. Neither are really fast. Mahomes didn’t suddenly make the NFL value elusiveness more
    Russ ran a 4.55 at the combine. That's pretty damn fast for an NFL QB and probably average for an NFL RB.

    He's nowhere near that fast anymore though that's for sure.

    Rodgers was a a 4.71 at the combine he's probably a 4.9 or 5.0 now but still quick for short distances.
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