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We could only be so lucky that a city council be removed by violent mob rule though.WestlinnDuck said:I'd feel better about statute removal if a city council voted on it rather than having them removed by violent demonstrators using mob rule.
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Fair pointWestlinnDuck said:I'd feel better about statute removal if a city council voted on it rather than having them removed by violent demonstrators using mob rule.
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Holy shit. OBK may be on to something. The end of times is upon us!RaceBannon said:And I gave creep a chin
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Agree with all of that. However, I just can't quite shake the feeling that book burning is warming up in the bullpen.RaceBannon said:I would not die on the hill of Confederate statues at this point. I thought creep laid it out well. There is an argument in favor that isn't racist but perception becomes reality
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We are at the virtual book burning stage alreadyGrundleStiltzkin said:
Agree with all of that. However, I just can't quite shake the feeling that book burning is warming up in the bullpen.RaceBannon said:I would not die on the hill of Confederate statues at this point. I thought creep laid it out well. There is an argument in favor that isn't racist but perception becomes reality
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Yeah if you want to rip down confederate shit go for it. Losers lose
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many of the statues of confederate heroes was approved in the late 1800's - years after the un-civil war.The nation was very divided still and it was an attempt to appease the southern bloc of states.
Some were erected just to piss OFF the powers in Washington DC.
I like the second reason better than the first
no links - look it up yourself
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Never pegged you as a Big Union guy. I agree with most of what you say. But you are jumping the shark a bit with the whole symbol of my enemy Schtick. The ‘Fed flag needed to not fly over state houses and City Halls. But it’s not the same as the Nazi flag. And that’s what it is being compared to now.creepycoug said:I'm generally not one for statute removal, but ...
the confederate memorials are at least an intellectually interesting discussion, as long as you're not having it with a retard.
TJ and George are foundational to the Union, so anyone can fuck off with that idea.
And, Robert E. Lee, in particular, was an amazing man in life and worthy of being remembered and, to an extent, revered.
With that said, I am loosely on the side of the argument that the secessionists were enemies of the Union and thus enemies of the country. They were dispatched only after the spilling of much American blood. As they say, Hitler is important history, too, but we don't erect statues of him, here or elsewhere. So, the whole, "learning" angle, is, to me, disingenuous. Similarly with the confederate flag. When it flies over a state capital building in the South, I find it somewhat offensive myself, and I sure as shit don't blame a black person for finding it deeply offensive. This is different than the rights of people to display them to their heart's desire.
Again, the gist of it, for me, that has some persuasive power, is that these are clear symbols of our former enemy. It makes only slightly more sense (because it was a civil war and they were before and after the war our countrymen) to erect monuments in their honor as it does to so for Musolini.
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https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/06/he-protested-in-portland-for-7-nights-straight-then-he-got-coronavirus.html
“For Snyder, participating in the racial justice movement sweeping across Oregon and the rest of the U.S. has been worth the risk and subsequent illness.”
Man who protested every day in Portland for BLM tests positive for COVID-19.
