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DARWIN! DARWIN! DARWIN!

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    I mean it's pretty much manslaughter

    Well- not unless he dies. I just checked a couple of news sites which still listed him as critical.
    Best case is he has permanent brain damage and hopefully can live a somewhat normal life after lots of rehab. A medically-induced coma is a very bad sign if it’s the only way to stop swelling.

    Also, it’s not easy getting any information on him or the people involved. Now why would that be...
    This is going to stop with confederate statues, Os Christopher Columbus. Lincoln's statue in London has already been vandalized- it will happen here. Want to stop this- start arresting folks.
    TJ and Washington are next.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,743 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    I mean it's pretty much manslaughter

    Well- not unless he dies. I just checked a couple of news sites which still listed him as critical.
    Best case is he has permanent brain damage and hopefully can live a somewhat normal life after lots of rehab. A medically-induced coma is a very bad sign if it’s the only way to stop swelling.

    Also, it’s not easy getting any information on him or the people involved. Now why would that be...
    This is going to stop with confederate statues, Os Christopher Columbus. Lincoln's statue in London has already been vandalized- it will happen here. Want to stop this- start arresting folks.
    TJ and Washington are next.
    God forbid the biggest racist POTUS in US history, Democrat Woodrow Wilson ever gets wiped clean.....

  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    SFGbob said:

    I mean it's pretty much manslaughter

    Well- not unless he dies. I just checked a couple of news sites which still listed him as critical.
    Best case is he has permanent brain damage and hopefully can live a somewhat normal life after lots of rehab. A medically-induced coma is a very bad sign if it’s the only way to stop swelling.

    Also, it’s not easy getting any information on him or the people involved. Now why would that be...
    This is going to stop with confederate statues, Os Christopher Columbus. Lincoln's statue in London has already been vandalized- it will happen here. Want to stop this- start arresting folks.
    TJ and Washington are next.
    Mt. Rushmore will be targeted for removal.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,729 Swaye's Wigwam
    Only a matter of time til WA state gets renamed

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,111 Swaye's Wigwam

    I mean it's pretty much manslaughter

    Well- not unless he dies. I just checked a couple of news sites which still listed him as critical.
    Either way dude's family should definitely be holding people to wrongful death or damages.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,913 Founders Club

    Will the lesbefriends be accessories to the crime?

    Hadn't thought about this yet but someone needs to be charged with a crime here. What happens when the city is sued because they didn't police the situation?
    Someone was pulling the rope and the person using the sledgehammer is visible. The lady who raises her hands in victory looks to have kicked at the statue. Start with those three because even though he was there, Darwin Dude had no way of knowing the statue was coming down at that moment.
    There was a longer, live version being played last night and the girl with the sledge hammer was trying to knock and or push it down seconds before this version started.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    I'm generally not one for statute removal, but ...

    the confederate memorials are at least an intellectually interesting discussion, as long as you're not having it with a retard.

    TJ and George are foundational to the Union, so anyone can fuck off with that idea.

    And, Robert E. Lee, in particular, was an amazing man in life and worthy of being remembered and, to an extent, revered.

    With that said, I am loosely on the side of the argument that the secessionists were enemies of the Union and thus enemies of the country. They were dispatched only after the spilling of much American blood. As they say, Hitler is important history, too, but we don't erect statues of him, here or elsewhere. So, the whole, "learning" angle, is, to me, disingenuous. Similarly with the confederate flag. When it flies over a state capital building in the South, I find it somewhat offensive myself, and I sure as shit don't blame a black person for finding it deeply offensive. This is different than the rights of people to display them to their heart's desire.

    Again, the gist of it, for me, that has some persuasive power, is that these are clear symbols of our former enemy. It makes only slightly more sense (because it was a civil war and they were before and after the war our countrymen) to erect monuments in their honor as it does to so for Musolini.

    Just my $0.02.

    It always goes back to Hitler. Always.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,413
    So how many black people need to die during these protests before someone looks at the ROI on 2 weeks of rage following the death of George Floyd?
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    thechatch said:

    So how many black people need to die during these protests before someone looks at the ROI on 2 weeks of rage following the death of George Floyd?

    Think about all of the COVID deaths that we will hear about once businesses want to open back up after seeing liberals gather in the thousands for most of June.

    HOAX
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,633

    I'm generally not one for statute removal, but ...

    the confederate memorials are at least an intellectually interesting discussion, as long as you're not having it with a retard.

    TJ and George are foundational to the Union, so anyone can fuck off with that idea.

    And, Robert E. Lee, in particular, was an amazing man in life and worthy of being remembered and, to an extent, revered.

    With that said, I am loosely on the side of the argument that the secessionists were enemies of the Union and thus enemies of the country. They were dispatched only after the spilling of much American blood. As they say, Hitler is important history, too, but we don't erect statues of him, here or elsewhere. So, the whole, "learning" angle, is, to me, disingenuous. Similarly with the confederate flag. When it flies over a state capital building in the South, I find it somewhat offensive myself, and I sure as shit don't blame a black person for finding it deeply offensive. This is different than the rights of people to display them to their heart's desire.

    Again, the gist of it, for me, that has some persuasive power, is that these are clear symbols of our former enemy. It makes only slightly more sense (because it was a civil war and they were before and after the war our countrymen) to erect monuments in their honor as it does to so for Musolini.

    Just my $0.02.

    It always goes back to Hitler. Always.
    Pick another asshole. IDC. The point, being, it's at least a debatable topic. And I don't for one second buy the "but history" or "we'll forget" arguments. Nobody is forgetting who was on the wrong side of WWII despite there being no statues of enemy (German, Japanese or Italian) generals in our state or federal capitals.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,470 Founders Club
    I would not die on the hill of Confederate statues at this point. I thought creep laid it out well. There is an argument in favor that isn't racist but perception becomes reality

    I was surprised Trump came out strong on not renaming bases. Not sure that's a winner either
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,470 Founders Club
    And I gave creep a chin
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,614 Founders Club

    I would not die on the hill of Confederate statues at this point. I thought creep laid it out well. There is an argument in favor that isn't racist but perception becomes reality

    I was surprised Trump came out strong on not renaming bases. Not sure that's a winner either

    Yep, seems like a let it go moment.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    I'm generally not one for statute removal, but ...

    the confederate memorials are at least an intellectually interesting discussion, as long as you're not having it with a retard.

    TJ and George are foundational to the Union, so anyone can fuck off with that idea.

    And, Robert E. Lee, in particular, was an amazing man in life and worthy of being remembered and, to an extent, revered.

    With that said, I am loosely on the side of the argument that the secessionists were enemies of the Union and thus enemies of the country. They were dispatched only after the spilling of much American blood. As they say, Hitler is important history, too, but we don't erect statues of him, here or elsewhere. So, the whole, "learning" angle, is, to me, disingenuous. Similarly with the confederate flag. When it flies over a state capital building in the South, I find it somewhat offensive myself, and I sure as shit don't blame a black person for finding it deeply offensive. This is different than the rights of people to display them to their heart's desire.

    Again, the gist of it, for me, that has some persuasive power, is that these are clear symbols of our former enemy. It makes only slightly more sense (because it was a civil war and they were before and after the war our countrymen) to erect monuments in their honor as it does to so for Musolini.

    Just my $0.02.

    It always goes back to Hitler. Always.
    You beat me to the punch
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    Doogles said:

    I would not die on the hill of Confederate statues at this point. I thought creep laid it out well. There is an argument in favor that isn't racist but perception becomes reality

    I was surprised Trump came out strong on not renaming bases. Not sure that's a winner either

    Yep, seems like a let it go moment.
    I agree but you let yourself get rolled on everyone of these we will be getting rid of Washington and Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt...
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Robert Byrd recruited for the KKK and was saying the n-word in interviews in the 2000s. Yet nobody wants to defame him or rename all of the things named after him. It’s all a partisan political move to get the black people who vote Democrat to believe Trump and the past is their problem, and not the Democrats who control their cities.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,648 Standard Supporter
    I'd feel better about statute removal if a city council voted on it rather than having them removed by violent demonstrators using mob rule.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    I'd feel better about statute removal if a city council voted on it rather than having them removed by violent demonstrators using mob rule.

    And perhaps killing people in the process of mob rule.
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