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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,740 Standard Supporter
    He should have just opened up everything, but other than that it is a start
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,650
    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    We can pop popcorn, watch and pop off since it’s really the only show in town.

    I do like Trumps 1A move here. Can’t wait for Inslees response
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    This just in.


    The states aren't working it out.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
    Of course a racist magtard would cheer a "Supremacy" clause¡1111¡
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Drawing on nothing but my innate rightness, I think this is mostly bullypulpit (ironic) stuff. No US Marshals are going to be escorting congregants into church. However, deeming it a essential service Federally and ensconcing into the hallowed writ of CDC Guidelines, he's giving ammunition to open defiance (bad optics for governors) and lawsuits against states. Probably a no-looser for Trump as a political maneuver.
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,751 Swaye's Wigwam

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
    Curious what you mean by “being targeted.”
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,582
    MelloDawg said:

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
    Curious what you mean by “being targeted.”
    Are you curious what he means by "Hoax"?
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,751 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    MelloDawg said:

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
    Curious what you mean by “being targeted.”
    Are you curious what he means by "Hoax"?
    No, it is clear some think the severity of COVID-19 is a hoax.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Tanned, rested & ready
  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,452 Founders Club

    A win for 1A in my opinion

    You and our nation's Founding Fathers shared big laughs in the media room over that article
  • AtomicPissAtomicPiss Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,452 Founders Club

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    That's the mercurial beauty of Trump.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,650

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Drawing on nothing but my innate rightness, I think this is mostly bullypulpit (ironic) stuff. No US Marshals are going to be escorting congregants into church. However, deeming it a essential service Federally and ensconcing into the hallowed writ of CDC Guidelines, he's giving ammunition to open defiance (bad optics for governors) and lawsuits against states. Probably a no-looser for Trump as a political maneuver.
    That's a lot of fancy schmancy writing for 'smoke and mirrors'.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,650
    salemcoog said:

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    This just in.


    The states aren't working it out.
    That's not the point.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,740 Standard Supporter
    it will be interesting if any state sends in the troopers to attempt to stop any service this weekend. If they go for one religion, they better go for all of them

    First to be rounded up - the Jews tomorrow...
    this could get ugly
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,759 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    He should have just opened up everything, but other than that it is a start

    Nope. Trump making Benito, Tojo and Adolph look like the moronic dicks of the west coast that we all already knew them to be.

    Trump is starting with 1A. Then he'll move to 2A and so on. Backing them into the corner of obvious lawlessness and disregard for the Constitution. In the meantime, ma and pa business owners are filing suit left and right against the coupe-d'teat governors and they are going to get their shit shoved in.

    2A probably not gonna be a big deal, but moving into 3A - that's likely gonna put a crimp on Benito's plan to use the National Guard as contact tracers....not cool to call out the military on its own people.

    4A - unreasonable search...yeah, why you think you can come in my home and take my kids? Because I breathe?

    Meanwhile, Obama and the boys are shitting their pants.

    Trump multi-tasks shit. He lays in wait and then it's like a fucking fireworks show exploding in a massive finale.




  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,650

    We have to pick a horse here: either the federal executive branch is in charge, or they are not.

    We've done some shifting on that point her in the Tug. We can't celebrate orders and then rely on state sovereignty for "why isn't Trump doing anything?"

    All of this shit can be argued flies in the face of the US Constitution.

    Own it or let the states work it out.

    Freedom of Religion is protected under the Constitution. How does opening places of worship fly in the face of the Constitution? Especially when churches seem to be targeted by Dem governors during this Hoax.
    Also not my point. Almost everything we're experiencing in terms of state and local government mandate can be challenged under the US Constitution.

    I've said from the beginning that something (allegedly) this threatening to health, welfare and safety of US citizens has "executive branch" written all over it. The WH is either in charge of this or it's not. It's not a sometimes thing. Own it or delegate.

    Trump's supporters laud his directness and his flouting of convention and his record for 'Just Do Something'. And those are, indeed, qualities in Trump.

    But, of course, all of these stay-at-home orders, and related federal support for various things, like healthcare, emergency funds, etc., has been terribly controversial. All you have to do is spend 5 minutes in the Tug and you can easily find 1,000 posts bitching about the government. Of course, in the Tug, it's most fun to focus on the liberal west coast governors. But I ask, not rhetorically, who the fuck is in charge here? Inslee? Really?

    During a war, we know the governors are not in charge and give two fucks what they say. What's the deal here? Is the fed in charge or are they rightfully deferring to the states on some legal theory that this rightly at matter of state sovereignty?

    My observation is that Trump, and his fans, tend to vacillate on this point. Simply focusing on religion, which is politically brilliant but practically stupid, is convenient, but not at all helpful. Let me be clear on this point: if I think this is all an overreaction to a small problem, and my life is being ruined (luckily that's not happening to me ... yet) because of 'stay at home', and I think that this is all state government overreach, then I'm saying this:

    WHERE DA FUCK YOU AT DON? OVERRULE THESE FUCKING CLOWNS AND OPEN THIS SHIT UP. YESTERDAY.

    So, why isn't there a bigger battle cry and appeal to the fed? If he can force the church issue, then why can't he force everything else?

    That is my point.
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