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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,559 Standard Supporter
    We killed more with the fire bombings than the nukes killed. Of course I was told if a place got nuked no one could survive there for half a million years. Seems my teachers were wrong. Nagasaki and Hiroshima seem rather lively.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.
    Football games aren’t won on the last play. Especially when you already have a huge lead.

    WWII wasn’t won by the “last” bomb either.

    The freshman RB represents the new weapon that will dominate the future (the bomb).

    I thought it was ok, as analogies go. But I’m open to notes. Should I have said he scored 2 TDs???
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.
    The Legend and History Pro @ThomasFremont excels at bad analogies.

    And gee, although I wasn't around at the time, my history profs at UW made a pretty good case that Japan SURRENDERED - YOU STUPID FUCKS - AFTER the US dropped the 2nd atomic bomb on Nagasaki.

    I'm sure the @ThomasFremonts of the world will be debating what should've, could've or would've happened in the weeks, months, or years after the skies over Japan went flash-boom-bang, but that Japanese surrender thingy will always be there to confound their discussions and conclusions about what NEVER ACTUALLY happened.

    Carry on, Revisionists.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    it was the detonation that did it
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.
    The Legend and History Pro @ThomasFremont excels at bad analogies.

    And gee, although I wasn't around at the time, my history profs at UW made a pretty good case that Japan SURRENDERED - YOU STUPID FUCKS - AFTER the US dropped the 2nd atomic bomb on Nagasaki.

    I'm sure the @ThomasFremonts of the world will be debating what should've, could've or would've happened in the weeks, months, or years after the skies over Japan went flash-boom-bang, but that Japanese surrender thingy will always be there to confound their discussions and conclusions about what NEVER ACTUALLY happened.

    Carry on, Revisionists.
    I never said we shouldn’t have dropped the bomb. I’m saying Japan had no path to victory by that point. If they needed to get a-bombed twice to see it that’s their problem. Fewer Americans dead.

    Tell us more how the bomb “won” the war. Even though half of the war was already won, and Japan was running on fumes...

    I expected more than this, you’re struggling here.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Projections aren’t results. It’s why we play the games
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.
    The Legend and History Pro @ThomasFremont excels at bad analogies.

    And gee, although I wasn't around at the time, my history profs at UW made a pretty good case that Japan SURRENDERED - YOU STUPID FUCKS - AFTER the US dropped the 2nd atomic bomb on Nagasaki.

    I'm sure the @ThomasFremonts of the world will be debating what should've, could've or would've happened in the weeks, months, or years after the skies over Japan went flash-boom-bang, but that Japanese surrender thingy will always be there to confound their discussions and conclusions about what NEVER ACTUALLY happened.

    Carry on, Revisionists.
    I never said we shouldn’t have dropped the bomb. I’m saying Japan had no path to victory by that point. If they needed to get a-bombed twice to see it that’s their problem. Fewer Americans dead.

    Tell us more how the bomb “won” the war. Even though half of the war was already won, and Japan was running on fumes...

    I expected more than this, you’re struggling here.
    Big Giant Boom, times two, followed by "surrender."

    What's a White Flag mean, Tommy? How about "throwing in the towel" or "conceding victory" to the opponent? Mere formalities?

    You are growing dumber by the post. It's a rare sight, but, by all means, keep shitting all over yourself for all to see.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
    Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.

    Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.

    Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.

    So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?

    Leave history to the pros, pal.

    Indeed. POTD

    The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?
    Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.

    What won WW2, SlowTommy?
    VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.

    If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.

    Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.

    Real History ace we have here guys.