Why is it so fucking hard for so many people to admit...
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want.
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If Trump would have shut down the economy on a national level several months ago, the economy would be in even worse shape, and his chances of re-election would have taken a massive blow. Yet, so many people are saying he should have done that. Where is the logic in saying that the president shouldn't governor based on the wishes of the people?
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I think I'm hitting my breaking point of working at home all day and reading all the stupid shit people are saying about the Coronavirus for the past 2 months.
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@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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Seems to me the Real Science Facts and Data back you up.
Now that we know what we know, Mitigate nursing home and rehab centers Now and get the fuck back to work. Or go buy something expensive either way is good -
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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Following your lead, Spaulding.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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Life is a math exercise. There is risk of dying every single second of every day -but we don't worry about it because there are so many things that could take us out, we'd be in the fetal position 23 hours 59 minutes of every day otherwise.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want.
To me, the 'but you'll kill granny' is no different than 'but you'll kill the alcoholic if you sell booze at your store'. Yes, that could happen. Does it stop Safeway from offering dozens of kinds of vodka and gin? No - because most people are not going to drink themselves into oblivion or offer fifths to alkies on the corner. Just like most people are not going to run into an assisted living facility and starting coughing and licking old people. It's not going to happen. And if it does, there are thousands of old folks' homes in this country -odds are the sneeze licker ISN'T going to invade your granny's place.
Instead we have these buttfukrs with a medical degree (and who doesn't know several doctors who are absolute twits/dorks but they could pass tests?) setting the course of society. Fuck those guys.
Time to live life again. If I die, I die. Oh well. But most certainly my life isn't going to be much worth living in anarchy breaks out or I can't buy food at the store without arm wrestling some skateboarder for the last box of twinkies or a package of pork chops. That's going to happen much sooner than most people would like to admit - and the only thing separating us from being Venezuela is about 3 weeks. And even then, advantage Venezuela because of hot chicks.
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Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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I’m a legend here. You’re some duck faggot that cries about his salary being cut while posting here all day long...Gee I wonder how they came to that decision.SFGbob said:
Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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It's amazing the perception of what $129 can buy for some.ThomasFremont said:
I’m a legend here. You’re some duck faggot that cries about his salary being cut while posting here all day long...Gee I wonder how they came to that decision.SFGbob said:
Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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Great post. And great points.PurpleThrobber said:
Life is a math exercise. There is risk of dying every single second of every day -but we don't worry about it because there are so many things that could take us out, we'd be in the fetal position 23 hours 59 minutes of every day otherwise.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want.
To me, the 'but you'll kill granny' is no different than 'but you'll kill the alcoholic if you sell booze at your store'. Yes, that could happen. Does it stop Safeway from offering dozens of kinds of vodka and gin? No - because most people are not going to drink themselves into oblivion or offer fifths to alkies on the corner. Just like most people are not going to run into an assisted living facility and starting coughing and licking old people. It's not going to happen. And if it does, there are thousands of old folks' homes in this country -odds are the sneeze licker ISN'T going to invade your granny's place.
Instead we have these buttfukrs with a medical degree (and who doesn't know several doctors who are absolute twits/dorks but they could pass tests?) setting the course of society. Fuck those guys.
Time to live life again. If I die, I die. Oh well. But most certainly my life isn't going to be much worth living in anarchy breaks out or I can't buy food at the store without arm wrestling some skateboarder for the last box of twinkies or a package of pork chops. That's going to happen much sooner than most people would like to admit - and the only thing separating us from being Venezuela is about 3 weeks. And even then, advantage Venezuela because of hot chicks.
Why is it that this tiny increase in risk of dying, so tiny that it's practically not even worth worrying about it, supposed to be the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to deaths in this country?
"Oh, 3 million people die every year in the United States? And most of those deaths could have been prevented? Eh, not worth doing anything about"
2 weeks later
"Oh shit! 3.1 million people might die this year instead of just 3 million? What can we do to prevent it? Shut down the entire economy which will cost trillions and trillions of dollars and will restrict us to being trapped in our homes like rats? Say no more! DO IT! DO IT NOW!!!!!"
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If trump would have shut down travel from China and other countries in December the left would have completely lost their shit.Fenderbender123 said:If Trump would have shut down the economy on a national level several months ago, the economy would be in even worse shape, and his chances of re-election would have taken a massive blow. Yet, so many people are saying he should have done that. Where is the logic in saying that the president shouldn't governor based on the wishes of the people?
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Death panels kinda grow on you after awhile. Glad to see so many of you coming around.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want. -
the chocolate covered ones?PurpleThrobber said:
Life is a math exercise. There is risk of dying every single second of every day -but we don't worry about it because there are so many things that could take us out, we'd be in the fetal position 23 hours 59 minutes of every day otherwise.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want.
To me, the 'but you'll kill granny' is no different than 'but you'll kill the alcoholic if you sell booze at your store'. Yes, that could happen. Does it stop Safeway from offering dozens of kinds of vodka and gin? No - because most people are not going to drink themselves into oblivion or offer fifths to alkies on the corner. Just like most people are not going to run into an assisted living facility and starting coughing and licking old people. It's not going to happen. And if it does, there are thousands of old folks' homes in this country -odds are the sneeze licker ISN'T going to invade your granny's place.
Instead we have these buttfukrs with a medical degree (and who doesn't know several doctors who are absolute twits/dorks but they could pass tests?) setting the course of society. Fuck those guys.
Time to live life again. If I die, I die. Oh well. But most certainly my life isn't going to be much worth living in anarchy breaks out or I can't buy food at the store without arm wrestling some skateboarder for the last box of twinkies or a package of pork chops. That's going to happen much sooner than most people would like to admit - and the only thing separating us from being Venezuela is about 3 weeks. And even then, advantage Venezuela because of hot chicks. -
The shut down will ultimately cost more lives than it saved, cook it.
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It is true who is dying matters. If thing was taking out 18-30 year who are in great shape, maybe the response we are seeing would make some sense. (Even then probably not to this degree). But the fact is it’s taking out 80+ year olds In nursing homes who are already sick makes the response criminal.
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Yeah, not gonna go that far.Doogles said:The shut down will ultimately cost more lives than it saved, cook it.
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For $129 you too can become a legend. Pony up.salemcoog said:
It's amazing the perception of what $129 can buy for some.ThomasFremont said:
I’m a legend here. You’re some duck faggot that cries about his salary being cut while posting here all day long...Gee I wonder how they came to that decision.SFGbob said:
Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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They lost their shit when he did it later.MikeDamone said:
If trump would have shut down travel from China and other countries in December the left would have completely lost their shit.Fenderbender123 said:If Trump would have shut down the economy on a national level several months ago, the economy would be in even worse shape, and his chances of re-election would have taken a massive blow. Yet, so many people are saying he should have done that. Where is the logic in saying that the president shouldn't governor based on the wishes of the people?
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It will be interesting to see the suicide rate during the pandemic shutdown once they are released.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah, not gonna go that far.Doogles said:The shut down will ultimately cost more lives than it saved, cook it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-crisis-creates-perfect-storm-for-suicide-risk-as-job-losses-soar-and-people-remain-isolated-at-home.html -
The annual total would have to double to match the dead through 3 months from COVID (who knows how much more beyond that).PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:
It will be interesting to see the suicide rate during the pandemic shutdown once they are released.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah, not gonna go that far.Doogles said:The shut down will ultimately cost more lives than it saved, cook it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-crisis-creates-perfect-storm-for-suicide-risk-as-job-losses-soar-and-people-remain-isolated-at-home.html
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COVID dead or covid* dead?
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Much like the Kurds, no one actually cares about the lives of the elderly people they claim to be outraged over. It’s opportunism, the left waited for Trump to show his cards and then jumped on the other side with full steam. Didn’t matter what his stance was, they took the other side and jiggered their argument to take the perceived high moral ground.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want. -
It's safe to say the books are getting cooked in every way depending on your side of the aisle.ThomasFremont said:
The annual total would have to double to match the dead through 3 months from COVID (who knows how much more beyond that).PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:
It will be interesting to see the suicide rate during the pandemic shutdown once they are released.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah, not gonna go that far.Doogles said:The shut down will ultimately cost more lives than it saved, cook it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-crisis-creates-perfect-storm-for-suicide-risk-as-job-losses-soar-and-people-remain-isolated-at-home.html
Would be sad to see, but I doubt it happens.
Outside of news telling me I need to be terrified, I'm personally not seeing it. Healthy young people aren't dying. The people that are seem to be one foot out or compromised which makes it easy to muddy the water in the actual cause of death. I'm not saying Covid isn't doing damage, but how this has played out is beyond science (aka Political as fuck).
I think a fair way to look at Covid will be taking all the deaths of the season (flu, heart disease, etc) and comparing it to the average. Anything above that is the Covid Bumper crop of deaths.
Deaths by increased suicide, overdose, and starvation by the lockdown and ensuing economic depression will be Huge. -
The same smart-ass Hypocrites dismissing their elders with "OK Boomer" a few short months ago are now cynically weaponizing the same group's grief and fear to score political points.
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They did completely lose their shit when he finally did it. Funny how short some memories are on that subject. And that there was an Impeachment thingy going on at the same time, too. Gee, wonder what slowed the Prez down?MikeDamone said:
If trump would have shut down travel from China and other countries in December the left would have completely lost their shit.Fenderbender123 said:If Trump would have shut down the economy on a national level several months ago, the economy would be in even worse shape, and his chances of re-election would have taken a massive blow. Yet, so many people are saying he should have done that. Where is the logic in saying that the president shouldn't governor based on the wishes of the people?
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Yeah but, he let US Citizens return home!
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I'll take "Things a Freeloader Says" for $800 Alex.salemcoog said:
It's amazing the perception of what $129 can buy for some.ThomasFremont said:
I’m a legend here. You’re some duck faggot that cries about his salary being cut while posting here all day long...Gee I wonder how they came to that decision.SFGbob said:
Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.
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The death panels are the rats. Did you not see how many rat Governors put the sick back into nursing homes and assisted living?HHusky said:
Death panels kinda grow on you after awhile. Glad to see so many of you coming around.Fenderbender123 said:That most people value their jobs, their ability to make ends meet, provide for their family, etc....more than the lives of elderly people with existing medical conditions? That's reality. But some would have us believe that to be the mentality of somebody who is EVIL. Really? 80% of people in the world are evil? Kind of begs the fucking definition of evil, doesn't it you stupid ass prick?
I'm not sure who I'm talking to. Just people in general. All these people keep pointing out that people are dying. Guess what? Actions speak louder than words. And the actions of American people are clear....the economy is more important. End of story. Give the American people what they want.
FFS HH, think before you type.
The worst place to be if you are a sick senior citizen is in NY under the thumb of Cuomo. He has blood on his hands. -
$129 isn't gonna raise my status here or anywhere.Swaye said:
I'll take "Things a Freeloader Says" for $800 Alex.salemcoog said:
It's amazing the perception of what $129 can buy for some.ThomasFremont said:
I’m a legend here. You’re some duck faggot that cries about his salary being cut while posting here all day long...Gee I wonder how they came to that decision.SFGbob said:
Ironic.ThomasFremont said:
Nah, just you. You’ve been a whiny cunt the entire time you’ve been here.NorthwestFresh said:@ThomasFremont will call you a whining Slave Wage who shouldn’t have a mortgage and/or kids because his Democrat governor says some jobs are essential and others aren’t in this artificial government-controlled job market.