Why is it so fucking hard for so many people to admit...
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A better sports analogy is you’re taking a 1-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth.Yeah, you’re winning but you still need to close it out. The atomic bombs are your closers.Houhusky said:
The real sport analogy is that the bombs were back to back possessions of holding until the shot-clock is low and then nailing 3 pointers near the end of the game.GrundleStiltzkin said:
There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.ThomasFremont said:
VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.TurdBomber said:
Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.ThomasFremont said:
The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?TurdBomber said:Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.
Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.
Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.
So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?
Leave history to the pros, pal.
Indeed. POTD
What won WW2, SlowTommy?
If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.
Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.
They were daggers that ensured no miracle comeback, no 20 mins of fouling and commercials, delaying the inevitable in the hopes a miracle occurs. The away team gave up and saw the inevitable, so everyone could get on the bus and go home a little bit earlier.
Also, baseball is for fags so it’s doubly perfect for this board...and this discussion. -
Implying that the state of WWII right before we dropped the bomb was the equivalent to a 1-0 lead is the exact opposite of reality.USMChawk said:
A better sports analogy is you’re taking a 1-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth.Yeah, you’re winning but you still need to close it out. The atomic bombs are your closers.Houhusky said:
The real sport analogy is that the bombs were back to back possessions of holding until the shot-clock is low and then nailing 3 pointers near the end of the game.GrundleStiltzkin said:
There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.ThomasFremont said:
VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.TurdBomber said:
Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.ThomasFremont said:
The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?TurdBomber said:Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.
Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.
Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.
So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?
Leave history to the pros, pal.
Indeed. POTD
What won WW2, SlowTommy?
If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.
Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.
They were daggers that ensured no miracle comeback, no 20 mins of fouling and commercials, delaying the inevitable in the hopes a miracle occurs. The away team gave up and saw the inevitable, so everyone could get on the bus and go home a little bit earlier.
Also, baseball is for fags so it’s doubly perfect for this board...and this discussion.
It was the end of a hard fought but ultimately decisive game and you just want to run the clock out and get out of there without any injuries. -
WTF is this?
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ThomasFremont said:
Implying that the state of WWII right before we dropped the bomb was the equivalent to a 1-0 lead is the exact opposite of reality.USMChawk said:
A better sports analogy is you’re taking a 1-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth.Yeah, you’re winning but you still need to close it out. The atomic bombs are your closers.Houhusky said:
The real sport analogy is that the bombs were back to back possessions of holding until the shot-clock is low and then nailing 3 pointers near the end of the game.GrundleStiltzkin said:
There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.ThomasFremont said:
VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.TurdBomber said:
Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.ThomasFremont said:
The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?TurdBomber said:Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.
Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.
Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.
So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?
Leave history to the pros, pal.
Indeed. POTD
What won WW2, SlowTommy?
If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.
Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.
They were daggers that ensured no miracle comeback, no 20 mins of fouling and commercials, delaying the inevitable in the hopes a miracle occurs. The away team gave up and saw the inevitable, so everyone could get on the bus and go home a little bit earlier.
Also, baseball is for fags so it’s doubly perfect for this board...and this discussion.
It was the end of a hard fought but ultimately decisive game and you just want to run the clock out and get out of there without any injuries.
March 1945: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_JimaThomasFremont said:
Implying that the state of WWII right before we dropped the bomb was the equivalent to a 1-0 lead is the exact opposite of reality.USMChawk said:
A better sports analogy is you’re taking a 1-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth.Yeah, you’re winning but you still need to close it out. The atomic bombs are your closers.Houhusky said:
The real sport analogy is that the bombs were back to back possessions of holding until the shot-clock is low and then nailing 3 pointers near the end of the game.GrundleStiltzkin said:
There is fair debate on the impact (lol) of The Bomb, but that's a bad analogy.ThomasFremont said:
VE Day came before we dropped the bomb. Japan was pushed back to the home islands cut off from resources and allies before we dropped the bomb. The bomb sped up the timeline of the Japanese surrender, but they were finished with or without it.TurdBomber said:
Okay, I'll play along. Let's hear the Revisions, SlowTommy.ThomasFremont said:
The atomic bomb didn’t win WWII, are you that simple?TurdBomber said:Besides, FDR won WWII, so he can pop off.
Leave the history to the pros, pal. This ain’t your wheelhouse.
Source: @ThomasFremont: The Legend, the History Pro, and Pal.
Good think I have @ThomasFremont around to remind me that the Great Depression lasted only 4 years and it was FDR who dropped the Atomic Bombs on Japan that won WW2.
So I guess it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, right Tommy?
Leave history to the pros, pal.
Indeed. POTD
What won WW2, SlowTommy?
If you want to make the case that the bomb saved us the trouble of invading the home islands, I’m all good. But that wasn’t your point. If you want to argue the bomb halted further Soviet expansion since we got it FIRST!!1! I’d hear what you had to say. Still would have nothing to do with winning WWII.
Saying the atomic bomb “won” the war is like saying the third string freshman phenom RB “won” the game because he scored a highlight garbage time TD as the clock expired up 4 scores.
They were daggers that ensured no miracle comeback, no 20 mins of fouling and commercials, delaying the inevitable in the hopes a miracle occurs. The away team gave up and saw the inevitable, so everyone could get on the bus and go home a little bit earlier.
Also, baseball is for fags so it’s doubly perfect for this board...and this discussion.
It was the end of a hard fought but ultimately decisive game and you just want to run the clock out and get out of there without any injuries.
June 1945: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa
Except the Japanese mounted even more fierce defense as the US troops inched closer.
Invasion would have been a bloodbath - both sides.
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The bomb won the peace
We've failed to win hearts and minds ever since once we win the combat
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Once Stalin came in from the north, there wouldn't have been much of Japan left. Uncle Joe gave no fucks about fatalities of his own soldiers. Plus the Japanese already got their asses kicked by Zukhov prior to WWII.RaceBannon said:The bomb won the peace
We've failed to win hearts and minds ever since once we win the combat
We would still be fighting guerrillas in Japan
People forget Dear Leader got his own guys into Manchuria in the last days...people forget that.
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And it sent Joe home helping to win the peace
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Uncle Joe was a peacemaker. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Just misunderstood.RaceBannon said:And it sent Joe home helping to win the peace
No wall in Japan
Same as Mao.
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Is that what your two students told you?PurpleThrobber said:
Uncle Joe was a peacemaker. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Just misunderstood.RaceBannon said:And it sent Joe home helping to win the peace
No wall in Japan
Same as Mao. -
Of course.RaceBannon said:
Is that what your two students told you?PurpleThrobber said:
Uncle Joe was a peacemaker. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Just misunderstood.RaceBannon said:And it sent Joe home helping to win the peace
No wall in Japan
Same as Mao.
But the Throbber IS a cool dad.
